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#1 User is offline   PedroG 

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Posted 2008-July-19, 02:41

Hi all,

Yesterday got this hand at BBO, All white IMP's. I'm south and I'm the dealer.

Scoring: IMP

P-2♦-P-P


well not sure if I was right but decide to balance to protect partner, so i DBL and the preemptor RDBL and this come back to me...

What should I do take the RDBL or play 2♦ RDL that scares the head out of me...

Thank you all
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Posted 2008-July-19, 09:35

If you trust partner, you should pass because he wants to play 2D xx

I cannot tell you if partner is worthy of that trust, however.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 10:17

This pass should be to play. I would never leave this in if my partner were an inexperienced player.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 10:27

If I know my partner, then I definitely trust him that pass is to play. If all these BBO players are randoms and I don't know anyone, I trust the XX'er lol Maybe you can tell how experienced LHO is by their profile? cuz some don't know weak preempts and he might've intended the 2D as a strong hand so then the question is, how experienced is my partner lol
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Posted 2008-July-19, 11:06

What's the point of having them if you don't use them?
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Posted 2008-July-19, 13:11

FrancesHinden, on Jul 19 2008, 10:35 AM, said:

If you trust partner, you should pass because he wants to play 2D xx

I cannot tell you if partner is worthy of that trust, however.

ditto, but there is an easy way to find out :P
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Posted 2008-July-19, 14:59

What is XX? I really have my bid?

What does pard do with a 3=3=4=3 hand over the XX?

This is a difficult problem with random players, since the XX seems weird to me. What purpose does it serve?

I think pard was releaived of bidding once the preemptor ReDoubled.

I'll bet you 2 dimes XX makes.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 15:55

I'm a passed hand, right? Seems simple enough to me.

If I weren't a passed hand (If the 2♦ bidder was dealer), I'd probably pull.

I'm thinking that XX means 'I'll bet you won't leave it in if it's game'.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 19:04

I might want to find out what 2♦ was before doubling the first time...
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Posted 2008-July-20, 04:17

matmat, on Jul 19 2008, 08:04 PM, said:

I might want to find out what 2♦ was before doubling the first time...

Alerted has weak...

I DBL because someone had to have points at the table and if the partner of preemptor didn't made the move it probably is my partner...

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Posted 2008-July-20, 04:22

no, pard is clee
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Posted 2008-July-20, 04:32

ArcLight, on Jul 19 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

What is XX? I really have by bid?

What does pard do with a 3=3=4=3 hand over the XX?

This is a difficult problem with random players, since the XX seems weird to me. What purpose does it serve?

I think pard was releaived of bidding once the preemptor ReDoubled.

I'll bet you 2 dimes XX makes.

Hi Arc,

So who should pull the XX? or should we play a 2♦XX.

Posting all hand so that everyone can check it out.



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Posted 2008-July-20, 05:03

The balancing X is fine. Partner's pass of the xx indicates that she wants to play 2D redoubled, so I pass it out. This is not that uncommon a situation, but I think many players fail to understand what is required of them.
It transpires on seeing all 4 hands that your partner made a very silly pass. 2S is clear with her hand.
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Posted 2008-July-20, 17:50

I still don't understand the XX.
How does preemptor know his pard has anything useful?
Its possible to be down 4 tricks.

You can lose 1-2 diamonds, pard can have kings that are all in front of aces.

I would pass the XX and let the Xer select the suit.

Asd teh Xer, I would pass thinkiong pard has a decent hand.
You can't just bid over 2♦ with crap in the direct seat.
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Posted 2008-July-20, 19:23

Agree with senior Hog. You can't sit the XX if you trying to visualize the hands: just use the theoretic 4414 as a template, You ain't gettin' any diamond tricks. don't be surprised if you make 2S.

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