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How would you open? What's your bid?

Poll: What's your first bid on this hand as dealer? (51 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your first bid on this hand as dealer?

  1. Pass (1 votes [1.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.96%

  2. 1 Club (23 votes [45.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.10%

  3. 2 Clubs (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3 Clubs (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3NT (1 votes [1.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.96%

  6. 4 Clubs (12 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  7. 5 Clubs (14 votes [27.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.45%

  8. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2008-May-15, 07:58

Scoring: IMP


You're winning this match by 8 imp's with 7 boards to go.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:09

5C
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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:15

Both Vul at imps? I'm going to go for the slow road and open it 1C. 2nd choice is 4C, as it seems a bit too heavy for 3C and 5C is too much.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:18

The_Hog, on May 15 2008, 09:09 AM, said:

5C

I think I'm a trick shy of 5♣. Maybe a trick and a half...if partner is void in clubs, I'm likely to have two club losers if I don't guess right.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:35

As usual in such situations, I count my losers.

Answer: 5

Conclusion: I would like to open 4♣, so I'm going to vote for that, knowing that I sometimes would like to play 3NT but I failed to agree with partner that 3NT shows a 4m-opening with a non-solid suit.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:52

4♣, my partner will be able to judge what to do. Biggest disadvantage is that opps can bid at 4-level... Fingers crossed.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 09:20

1♣.

This is not a bad hand.

If necessary, I can bid a lot of clubs later. I do not want to preempt my partner and force him to guess at the 5 level.

I also do not want to rule out 3NT as a possible contract. It is very difficult to get to 3NT if you open the bidding 4♣ or 5♣. I know that I am dreaming, but 3NT is cold opposite as little as xxxx QJx QJxx Ax, and there are many slightly better hands which make 3NT easy.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 09:24

4♣ is the best bid ever. I don't like the ♠A but that's life.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 09:27

4♣ if that is ♣'s, else 5♣.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 09:33

Would we open 4♣ r/r without the ♠A? (Answer: Yes)

1♣. Don't preempt yourself out of 3N.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 09:39

5♣ for all the usual reasons. We might make it, it might be a good sac, maybe with a perfecto P can bid slam. If I get x'd and am -800 against + 620 or 650, that's not too bad. If I go -1100, they likely have a slam, altho they may not be able to bid it. I think the worst results will be when I am -500 or -800 and they have no making game. Oh, well, been there before.

4 ♣ is acceptable, but I'd prefer to just get the hand off my chest in one bid. One ♣ just makes it too easy on opp's. B)
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Posted 2008-May-15, 10:18

1♣ for me. More and more on these hands I see them get doubled in 3♣ when the other table opens 5♣.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 10:57

I have had some sucess by opening 1♣ on these kinda hands, and keep rebidding ♣, and several times opps have x'ed me in 3♣, making and sometimes with an overtrick.

And of course we might find 3NT, though a missed 3NT would not be my main objection against opening 4♣( I think it is very closed, and actually voted 4♣ but changed my mind before making this post.)
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Posted 2008-May-16, 13:06

totally trivial 5♣, wtp? I don't even have the ♣A to justify trying 3NT.
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Posted 2008-May-16, 13:17

We have 8 tricks...4♣ or 1♣ for me. If we open 4♣ I think most of the hands where we'd get to 3NT we may end up in 5♣, but still we have enough offence IMHO to just open 1♣ and keep rebidding, but this is often the opp's hand and they have a much harder time after 4♣.

I don't like a red 5♣ with only 8 tricks as is too easy to X
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Posted 2008-May-16, 13:57

I'd bid 4♣, have had a lot of success with 4m preempts lately.

It seems that if you bid 1♣, your problems are not really over. Say partner responses with 1M. Now this hand seems a bit too good (offensively) for 2♣, which partner could easily pass on a pretty decent hand with short clubs, but at the same time it is wrong for 3♣ which could easily convince partner to bid a no-play 3NT.
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Posted 2008-May-16, 13:59

awm, on May 16 2008, 11:57 AM, said:

I'd bid 4♣, have had a lot of success with 4m preempts lately.

It seems that if you bid 1♣, your problems are not really over. Say partner responses with 1M. Now this hand seems a bit too good (offensively) for 2♣, which partner could easily pass on a pretty decent hand with short clubs, but at the same time it is wrong for 3♣ which could easily convince partner to bid a no-play 3NT.

If partner bid 1 major, I think most of us would bid 2♣ and hope to catch up. 3♣ is really weird with this hand.
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Posted 2008-May-16, 15:11

Pass

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Posted 2008-May-16, 20:34

4♣ - its a 5 loser hand...
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Posted 2008-May-17, 03:07

Hi,

1C.

It is either 1C or 4C, ask me tomorow.

The adv. of 4C is, I will be done with the hand,
the disadv., partner wont give me the Ace of
spades.

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