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a jumble but we ended at the right spot
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Posted 2008-March-25, 08:11
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Posted 2008-March-25, 08:26
This one I'd open 1H. The reason I deviate from my normal pattern with 5-6's (opening the 6) with this hand is that since the suits are hearts and diamonds, hearts is likely to get lost if I open 1D when my hand is this weak. Usually you can just stretch to reverse with 5-6 but I think this is too far, and if the auction gets competitive you're pretty much forced to pass which sucks.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 08:57
I'll try the 1♦ - 2♦ route. If pard were a passed hand, I'd open 1♥.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 10:19
My plan starts with 1♥ + some nr. of diamonds
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Posted 2008-March-25, 11:56
1♦ and hope I get to rebid ♥s on the 2-level and no higher.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 11:58
I'd open this one 1♥. If I cannot reverse (and I agree that even with the 5-6 this is too light), then I'm not going to let ♥s get shut out. I have been opening these hands (systemically) 1♥ for awhile and don't feel anything horrible has happened yet.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 14:24
Scoring: IMP
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- - - 1♥
2♥* 2♠ 2NT** 3♦
Pass 4♣ Pass 4♥
Pass 5♦ Dbl Pass
Pass 5♥ Pass 6♥
Pass Pass Dbl Pass
Pass Pass
*michaels
**show your 2nd suit
This was the actual action, my partner misunderstood the 2♠ ♥ cue and was happy to play in 5♦.
After 5♦ (X) I was left with a gamble at 5 or 6♥'s is it possible to recover sensibly from here?
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Posted 2008-March-25, 14:28
You made a slam try (4C) partner signed off, then you make another slam try (5D). Partner still doesn't bid slam so I would sign off in 5H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 14:32
han, on Mar 25 2008, 01:28 PM, said:
You made a slam try (4C) partner signed off, then you make another slam try (5D). Partner still doesn't bid slam so I would sign off in 5H.
What should 5♦ (X) pass mean? As it was my partner didnt know about the ♥ fit.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 14:45
To me your 5D bid shows that you have club and diamond controls but denies a spade control as you have bypassed spades twice. So far so good. We can actually figure out what partner has:
Partner would sign off in 5H without a spade control, so pass at least shows a spade control. On the other hand, you have made two slam tries and partner still hasn't committed to slam so partner is clearly not enthousiastic. I think that redouble would show a good diamond control and would also show more slam interest than pass.
Of course I understand that partner misunderstood the auction, hopefully next time he or she will remember that (1) a cuebid by responder shows support and (2) 1H-2H shows 5+ spades (and another suit) so 2S is logically a cuebid.
Partner would sign off in 5H without a spade control, so pass at least shows a spade control. On the other hand, you have made two slam tries and partner still hasn't committed to slam so partner is clearly not enthousiastic. I think that redouble would show a good diamond control and would also show more slam interest than pass.
Of course I understand that partner misunderstood the auction, hopefully next time he or she will remember that (1) a cuebid by responder shows support and (2) 1H-2H shows 5+ spades (and another suit) so 2S is logically a cuebid.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 15:07
Was this hand really worth a 5♦ call? It's not hard to construct a hand for opener where 4♥ is the limit of the hand. You made a slam try, partner has an ill-fitting minimum, game over, yes? Partner's club void was a very nice surprise, but he could have been 3523 for the auction so far, in which case you aren't even making 4.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 21:23
jtfanclub, on Mar 25 2008, 02:07 PM, said:
Was this hand really worth a 5♦ call? It's not hard to construct a hand for opener where 4♥ is the limit of the hand. You made a slam try, partner has an ill-fitting minimum, game over, yes? Partner's club void was a very nice surprise, but he could have been 3523 for the auction so far, in which case you aren't even making 4.
I think my hand is worth another slam try, my partner could have passed or bid 4♥ over the opps (2nt) - I would have signed off 4♥ here.
3♦ is an advanced cue, I havent finished bidding this 6403 hand yet.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 21:39
3D is natural, patterning out. You can be pretty sure from the auction that they have a club fit and partner has short clubs.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 22:51
Scoring: IMP
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- - - 1♥
2♥ 2♠ 2NT 3♦
Pass 4♣ Pass 4♥
Pass 5♦ Dbl Pass
Pass 5♥ Pass 6♥
Pass Pass Dbl Pass
Pass Pass
Lead J♣
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