lots of clubs rrr
#1
Posted 2007-December-02, 06:11
A
KQxx
Qx
KJ98xx
vulnerable vs not, decent p, decent opps
RHO deals and opens 1♣! ugh, you are shocked and you pass.
1♣-p-1♠-p
2♠-?
George Carlin
#2
Posted 2007-December-02, 07:23
#3
Posted 2007-December-02, 07:25
X is out, ... how do you feel, if poor partner
bids 3D
3C is out as well, the suit is not nearly as robust
as she needs to be, afterall you want to play this
suit at the 3 level red vs. green
Whats left? Pass
If you wanted to bid, you should have done it the
round before, 2C in case it is natural, 1H, assuming
one of the x is a 10 or 9, or 1 NT.
But Pass is certainly ok, and the auction may not be
over yet.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2007-December-02, 07:45
As it is I'm passing.
Harald
#5
Posted 2007-December-02, 10:15
#6
Posted 2007-December-02, 11:32
jtfanclub, on Dec 2 2007, 05:15 PM, said:
Double should show a strong hand with clubs or a t/o with short spades.
This hand doesn't really qualify as either - you're to weak for the strong interpretation and far from ideal shape for a t/o double where 1444/0454 or something like that is perfect.
You're not too happy (to put it mildly) when partner bids 3♦ (or maybe 2NT lebenshohl followed by 3♦). And you really hate it if opps double you in 3♦.
Harald
#8
Posted 2007-December-02, 15:10
#9
Posted 2007-December-02, 16:25
gwnn, on Dec 2 2007, 07:11 AM, said:
A_KQxx_Qx_KJ98xx
vulnerable vs not, decent p, decent opps
RHO deals and opens 1♣! ugh, you are shocked and you pass.
1♣-p-1♠-p
2♠-?
Since you know as soon as RHO opens that you are only going to get one shot at communicating with partner and that it is unlikely you are going to want to play anywhere except ♥'s or NT, save yourself from later problems by overcalling 1H on the first round:
(1C)-1H-??
Your hand is now off your chest.
#10
Posted 2007-December-02, 16:40
1♥ last round? Never for me.
#11
Posted 2007-December-02, 16:47
gwnn, on Dec 2 2007, 07:11 AM, said:
A
KQxx
Qx
KJ98xx
vulnerable vs not, decent p, decent opps
RHO deals and opens 1♣! ugh, you are shocked and you pass.
1♣-p-1♠-p
2♠-?
prefer to overcall 1H. with all those spades missing I do not think I am going to defend one club doubled.
#12
Posted 2007-December-02, 16:48
The most common shape for doubling here is probably 1435, I'd have thought, so double feels right here.
#13
Posted 2007-December-02, 17:36

Dbl now, and correct diams to hearts.
#14
Posted 2007-December-02, 18:00
whereagles, on Dec 3 2007, 12:36 AM, said:

Dbl now, and correct diams to hearts.
What do you expect partner to do over 3♥ with 4252 junk?
Harald
#15
Posted 2007-December-02, 22:22
- hrothgar
#16
Posted 2007-December-03, 02:04
Now I pass.
Yes if we fight for the part score, bidding may be right. But I hope that they will end up too high with spades and clubs bad breaking. But the chance that they end up too high is higher if I do not tell them that the suits are not breaking.
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#17
Posted 2007-December-03, 16:35
skaeran, on Dec 3 2007, 12:00 AM, said:
whereagles, on Dec 3 2007, 12:36 AM, said:

Dbl now, and correct diams to hearts.
What do you expect partner to do over 3♥ with 4252 junk?
I expect him to stay in bad that day.
Joke aside, he'll bid 4♣. What else?
#18
Posted 2007-December-03, 16:52
Not playing this I'll wade out with 3♣. I guess its useful that LHO doesn't know how good his ♣Qxx is

#19
Posted 2007-December-03, 17:26
pclayton, on Dec 3 2007, 02:52 PM, said:
Not playing this I'll wade out with 3♣. I guess its useful that LHO doesn't know how good his ♣Qxx is

If 1♣ was nebulous, then 2♣ would be natural and 2♦ would be Michael's. Here it seems that 1♣ is natural, so 2♣ would be Michael's.