[ewj]

Scoring: IMP

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Partner opens 1♠, RHO doubles and you bid 2NT good raise. 3♠ is bid by LHO, partner passes and RHO bids 4♥. LHO corrects this to 5♦ and this is passed back to you. Do you act?

[ClaceyJ]

I double I think, though I can see how this could go wrong.

[inquiry]

What else can you do but double? I guess if your partner is a chronic first seat psycher you might hesitate to double, but if you catch this psyche you are psyching much too much.

[neilkaz]

DOUBLE them !! If not now, then when ? You have a flat 11 count opposite and opening bid and AJx in their trumps. I suspect they are more likely to take 9 or even 8 tricks than 11.

[Apollo81]

I wouldn't double. I don't want to tip them off to who has the ♦J/diamond length, which may be the key factor in whether this contract makes or not.

[Apollo81]

neilkaz, on Nov 25 2007, 11:07 PM, said:

DOUBLE them !! If not now, then when ? You have a flat 11 count opposite and opening bid and AJx in their trumps. I suspect they are more likely to take 9 or even 8 tricks than 11.

Partner heard you bid 2NT, didn't bid game, and didn't double 5♦. I wouldn't be so optimistic.

[mikeh]

inquiry, on Nov 25 2007, 07:37 PM, said:

What else can you do but double? I guess if your partner is a chronic first seat psycher you might hesitate to double, but if you catch this psyche you are psyching much too much.

Unless partner is known to NEVER psyche, doubling is silly.

It is impossible to construct hands for the opps where neither has made an egregious error and they go down 2 tricks. Heck, I think that it is highly unlikely that they can go down at all unless they lose 2 trump tricks, and your double will almost surely prevent that.

Consider: your red v white RHO is NOT psyching.

Consider: your red v white LHO bid 3♠ before bidding 5♦. Maybe he has a modest 1=1=6=5 and was hoping to hear his partner bid a 4 card major, but maybe he has a SLAM TRY! How else would he bid a good hand with good diamonds, but less than a slam force?

And we are looking at 11 hcp.

Get real: unless the opps are out to lunch, the odds are extremely high that partner lacks an opening hand. And no-one I know psyches in 1st seat with, say 6 or 7 points... a 1st seat white v red psyche is pure and utter garbage... you'd be very lucky, where I come from, to find him with a semblance of a trick.

[jtfanclub]

I have a feeling that there's more to the story...

If so, I'm looking forward to it.

[ewj]

Partner has psyched and has a flat 3 count. I was just wondering whether this hand *should* have doubled. (it didn't at the time)

[neilkaz]

Apollo81, on Nov 26 2007, 02:49 PM, said:

I wouldn't double. I don't want to tip them off to who has the ♦J/diamond length, which may be the key factor in whether this contract makes or not.

Your point is valid...my opinion was based on the fact that I don't play with many PD's who psych.

.. neilkaz ..

[ewj]

neilkaz, on Nov 26 2007, 08:01 PM, said:

Apollo81, on Nov 26 2007, 02:49 PM, said:

I wouldn't double.  I don't want to tip them off to who has the ♦J/diamond length, which may be the key factor in whether this contract makes or not.

Your point is valid...my opinion was based on the fact that I don't play with many PD's who psych.

.. neilkaz ..

Appollo was saying that, even if partner hasn't psyched, who's to say this is going off, if they only have one trump loser. The opponents know that your partner has opened, that you have shown a good raise, and have still bid strongly to game vunerable. They probably have some shape...LHO could easily be 6-5 or something.