[mike777]

double..the bidding is not over yet.
I am going to guess partner did not bid 6s vul on 9 spades to the jack and nothing but the bidding is not over yet.

[jdonn]

Mike what do you mean by "the bidding is not over yet"? Does that mean you expect partner to pull your double when it's right to do so, magically infering your AKQx of his suit?

[mikeh]

mike777, on Nov 20 2007, 03:28 PM, said:

double..the bidding is not over yet.
I am going to guess partner did not bid 6s vul on 9 spades to the jack and nothing but the bidding is not over yet.

I suspect the auction is over, Mike. Even tho I am 99% sure that the grand is cold, I don't think either opp can actually redouble

[han]

What do you not understand Donn? He is doubling now and hopes to have more information by the time the bidding comes back to him.

[mikeh]

Hannie, on Nov 20 2007, 04:05 PM, said:

What do you not understand Donn? He is doubling now and hopes to have more information by the time the bidding comes back to him.

It's the kind of bid Al Roth would make, saying 'If I can get by this round, I should be in good shape'.... except Dr. Roth was usually writing about bidding a 3 card suit at the 2-level on the second round.

[han]

I was joking, hope that was obvious.

[skjaeran]

Put me firmly in the 7♠ camp. Partner didn't double 7♦. Not bidding 7♠ really looks incredible to me.

[mikeh]

Hannie, on Nov 20 2007, 04:10 PM, said:

I was joking, hope that was obvious.

me too: sometimes the smilies aren't enough

[han]

Hehe, glad you were.

[Walddk]

skaeran, on Nov 20 2007, 11:12 PM, said:

Partner didn't double 7♦. Not bidding 7♠ really looks incredible to me.

Why would he double 7♦ if he can see it down, with no defence against 7♥? Partner doesn't know anything about your hand since you passed all along. This is the expert forum, so I am sure no one would double a contract they know goes down if they can't double the contract the opponents may retreat to.

Roland

[mike777]

It does seem many posters are assuming partner is bidding 6s on 9 spades to the jack and no defense.

[Blofeld]

mike777, on Nov 20 2007, 05:18 PM, said:

It does seem many posters are assuming partner is bidding 6s on 9 spades to the jack and no defense.

Well, let's see if we can work through the logic of this one:

Partner bid 6♠ missing the A, K, Q and another spade. While she may have entertained it as a possibility, she can't have had the expectation of making. Therefore she must have bid it with the intention of sacrificing. Which means she expected 6♥ was making, which does rather suggest not much in the way of defence.

There's no guarantee of 9 spades, but there's got to be some pretty extreme length to justify a bid like that.

[mike777]

Blofeld, on Nov 20 2007, 05:25 PM, said:

mike777, on Nov 20 2007, 05:18 PM, said:

It does seem many posters are assuming partner is bidding 6s on 9 spades to the jack and no defense.

Well, let's see if we can work through the logic of this one:

Partner bid 6♠ missing the A, K, Q and another spade. While she may have entertained it as a possibility, she can't have had the expectation of making. Therefore she must have bid it with the intention of sacrificing. Which means she expected 6♥ was making, which does rather suggest not much in the way of defence.

There's no guarantee of 9 spades, but there's got to be some pretty extreme length to justify a bid like that.

but why push them to a possible making grand slam for down something vul?
It just seems to be guessing after the opp have guessed?

[Walddk]

I'm just waiting for David Burn to say "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark". There is, but what is it?

Roland

[Halo]

Double.

Don't see anyone making seven of anything.

[Tomi2]

i think lho has 0-7-6-0, rho 0-2-3-8, partner 9-0-2-2
i see 7 spades going for -4 thats -1100
if they realy have their grand, than this is cheap, else not
i double and hope for that ♦Q in partners hand or maybe one of them will pull to 7♥ - nobody knows. Maybe I am wrong, but:
The only thing I am sure about, is that my spade holding makes NOT an autmatic 7♠ bd

when will we get the solution of this hand?

[Walddk]

Tomi2, on Nov 21 2007, 01:43 AM, said:

when will we get the solution of this hand?

Some time Wednesday European time.

Roland

[kenrexford]

FrancesHinden, on Nov 20 2007, 10:18 AM, said:

LHO is 0=7=6=0
Parnter is 9=0=1=3
RHO is 0=2=4=7

(you can fiddle around with the red suit holdings slightly)

7D could well be making
You haven't given any vulnerability, so I don't know what the odds are, but it looks right to save.

Phil's suggestion is also possible of course.

I'm there as well.

[inquiry]

Looking at AKQx of spades and realizing partner passed initially over 4♣, I am not thinking partner bid 6♠ to make. He was taking a save and his choice of suit got EAST to bid 7, which I don't really think was meant as a save either (it might be a maybe we make, maybe we go down one bid, however). But RHO has REDS, LHO has clubs. PArtner? Well he has a bunch of spades. I am thinking 9 at this vulnerability only because 10 is not possible given I have four of them.

So we have no spade tricks, and parnter didn't hit 7♦, and the club queen is dead given the VUL 4♣ opening bid. Do I really think I am going to win the fourth round of hearts against grand slam? Sorry, as much as I dislike it, I have zero defense and partner took a save... a save for which I have a great fit. I think 7♠ is probably -1100 unless we can ruff a diamond or two. But so be it, 7♠, and dare them to bid 7NT.