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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2007-November-18, 23:26

Scoring: IMP

(p) - ??


There will be a part two later. What's your call?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-18, 23:29

Pass. I'll bid later.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 00:13

I pass. Not enough high cards for 1s, and just too good for hearts for any other number.

(Obviously?) if I had something that showed the majors, I would use it.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 00:24

Yeah, normal methods it looks like a pass. 3rd seat I'd bid something, but 2nd just seems like it's asking to find the wrong strain.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 01:02

Normal pass, let's see what's next.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 01:11

I would pass, but I would hate it very bad. 2nd seat is not the place to be imaginative.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 01:28

I would pass too, but I don't think it would turn out as unanimous as the responses so far make it seem.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 01:35

I am a passer, I like to preempt if my hearts are a minor, but opening 2S with 5 hearts just rates to lose hearts too much for my liking.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 02:06

Luckily I can bid 2 ♥ for both majors.

Without this tool, I would pass, even if I could open this hand due to the rule of 18.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 02:09

Codo, on Nov 19 2007, 03:06 AM, said:

Luckily I can bid 2 ♥ for both majors.

Without this tool, I would pass, even if I could open this hand due to the rule of 18.

2h if it shows thishand excatly..wtp?
2s if it shows this hand excatly..wtp?
pass if this hand is included in pass.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 02:23

Hannie, on Nov 19 2007, 12:26 AM, said:

East,N/S,IMP,

AQ8642,T9862,9,J

(p) - ??

There will be a part two later. What's your call?

An easy pass unless We have a systemic bid to show this hand.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 03:56

My first inclination was pass but then I recognized the hand and remembered that I opened 1♠. (Not quite, I think my hand has the jack of spades also, maybe that made the difference).
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Posted 2007-November-19, 05:08

Pass for now.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 06:12

Pass, even if it hurts.
But I have decided for my own years ago,
that I pass with this kind of hand.

My partner would open 2S, intending to
bid hearts the next round.

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Posted 2007-November-19, 06:27

Interesting. I thought I knew the hand from yesterday's 4th segment of the English Open Trials. But that hand was ...

♠ AK8653
♥ 109875
♦ 8
♣ 3

... so it can't be. Very similar though.

With the hand Han posted here I will pass. I will likely also pass the hand Jason Hackett and Gunnar Hallberg had on vugraph. Jason did, Hallberg opened 2♠.

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Posted 2007-November-19, 07:02

Walddk, on Nov 19 2007, 01:27 PM, said:

With the hand Han posted here I will pass. I will likely also pass the hand Jason Hackett and Gunnar Hallberg had on vugraph. Jason did, Hallberg opened 2♠.

Roland

...and the 2S opening was not a success
(or at least, his subsequent actions led to it not being a success!)
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Posted 2007-November-19, 09:00

I have to admit that I would be inclined to open 2♠ as well, only because we are vulnerable.

I'm not convinced that passing makes heart more likely to enter the fray all that much. I could see a lot of auctions were my next problem is whether to focus first the spades or to make a Michaels bid. I'd be inclined to end up with a 2♠ call, later, that has the same problem.

That said, let's see if I can out-do this chap as to the follow-up question. LOL
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Posted 2007-November-19, 09:13

I would open 3♠
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Posted 2007-November-19, 09:49

OK, a nearly unanimous vote for passing. I opened 2S. If you cannot live with 2S then you can just abstain from the next question.

It goes

(p) - 2S - (3C) - 4S
(5C) - ??

Your call?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-19, 10:02

I cannot live with 2♠. That on top of the greatest school in the history of mankind losing to some nonames from that state down south is just too much for me in a weekend.

Goodbye cruel world!!!!

.... 5♥
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