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"we may as well play for all the marbles" ?

Poll: 3NT or not? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

3NT or not?

  1. 3NT (34 votes [89.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 89.47%

  2. not (4 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2007-November-17, 13:52

You hold

AKJx
KTx
Tx
T9xx

favorable imp's

RHO opens 2♠, 5/5 or better with a minor (6-10 or so) and it goes

2♠-p-p-3♦
p-?
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Posted 2007-November-17, 15:47

3N seems spot on. What is the alternative? Pass?
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Posted 2007-November-17, 15:57

Maybe its a bit on the minimum side, but this must be a totally clear 3NT. And yes the alternative is pass, but it's not much of an alternative if you ask me.
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Posted 2007-November-17, 16:05

3N, WTP? I probably need to smoke more weed to notice one here; no guarantees though.
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Posted 2007-November-17, 16:11

Didn't notice the problem either.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-17, 17:50

Well, the spade stopper is a tad light, but, Hell! It's IMP's.




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Posted 2007-November-17, 18:03

kenrexford, on Nov 17 2007, 11:50 PM, said:

Well, the spade stopper is a tad light, but, Hell! It's IMP's.

You're right. I'd prefer AKQ. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2007-November-17, 20:50

kenrexford, on Nov 17 2007, 06:50 PM, said:

Well, the spade stopper is a tad light, but, Hell! It's IMP's.

You mis-spelled club. Though I'd still bid 3N. B)
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Posted 2007-November-17, 20:55

another vote for WTP
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Posted 2007-November-18, 15:02

I was the 2nd voter in this poll and the first for 3NT. I'm in the wtp camp too.
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Posted 2007-November-18, 15:04

So in fact Harald was the wtp-trendsetter. I knew it!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-18, 15:37

I voted 3NT.

I'm not confident opposing AKQJx in clubs.

'wtp' - bit offensive.

Our spades are very good. Why shouldn't his clubs be very good. Our expert bidding is not very subtle it seems.
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Posted 2007-November-18, 15:58

Um. Let's talk.

If you spend hours fretting about a stopper situation in a suit with 109xx, not bid by the opponents, in a preempted auction, with no way to ask about that suit anyway, then you are a bit on the pessimistic side.

Make the clubs stiff 10, and there might be a problem.
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Posted 2007-November-18, 16:14

Hannie, on Nov 18 2007, 10:04 PM, said:

So in fact Harald was the wtp-trendsetter. I knew it!

Well, that might be going a little too far, but heck, wtp? :P
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Posted 2007-November-18, 16:15

kenrexford, on Nov 18 2007, 04:58 PM, said:

Um. Let's talk.

If you spend hours fretting about a stopper situation in a suit with 109xx, not bid by the opponents, in a preempted auction, with no way to ask about that suit anyway, then you are a bit on the pessimistic side.

Make the clubs stiff 10, and there might be a problem.

Um.

Let's not talk. I did bid 3NT.
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Posted 2007-November-18, 16:44

I'm a horrible human being.

I balanced on x Qxxx KJ98xx Ax and disliked my pard's 3NT bid. I believe this to be the most horrible resulting thread ever on these forums. One of those "not" votes (no doubt the one described by Harald), I have to confess, is mine.

Now for the fun part:

2♠!-p-p-3♦
p-3NT-p-p
4♣*-X-4♠-p
p-X-end

*= T9xxx AJx void QJxxx

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Posted 2007-November-18, 16:58

I assume the 'fun part' is a totally different hand, as otherwise there are two of each of the SJ, the C10 and the C9
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Posted 2007-November-18, 17:00

FrancesHinden, on Nov 19 2007, 12:58 AM, said:

I assume the 'fun part' is a totally different hand, as otherwise there are two of each of the SJ, the C10 and the C9

oops. black suits reversed
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Posted 2007-November-18, 23:37

kenrexford, on Nov 18 2007, 04:58 PM, said:

Um. Let's talk.

If you spend hours fretting about a stopper situation in a suit with 109xx, not bid by the opponents

I'd disagree that the opponents haven't bid clubs.
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Posted 2007-November-19, 09:02

pretzalz, on Nov 19 2007, 12:37 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Nov 18 2007, 04:58 PM, said:

Um.  Let's talk.

If you spend hours fretting about a stopper situation in a suit with 109xx, not bid by the opponents

I'd disagree that the opponents haven't bid clubs.

Oops -- missed that.

I'd still bid 3NT, though. I have a difficult time asking if partner or my LHO have a stiff honor.
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