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#1 User is offline   Wayne_LV 

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Posted 2007-August-30, 14:45

Has anyone played or played against Chilli?

http://chillibidding...undamentals.htm

On the surface, it appears to effective and the author of the above website claims to have success with it in tournaments.

Curious if anyone has taken a serious look at Chilli and has opionions as to whether it is worth an attempt to learn.

One seemingly attractive aspect of Chilli is there are few rules to memorize.

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Posted 2007-August-30, 14:58

Call me opinionated but 1=21+ sounds like a bad idea to me. If you are interested in 1 and 1 both showing only strength, nothing about distribution, why not try magic diamond, which makes much much more sense?
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Posted 2007-August-30, 15:30

Everyone who plays a home made system claims it's perfect. But in reality many just aren't constructed with a solid skeleton, just like this one... 1 16-20 and 1 21+, that's just madness, not to mention the 2 opening!
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Posted 2007-August-31, 04:46

I tried the system some years ago. There are some seriuos flaws in it, although I can't quite remember which ones. The author told me there is a new version. Especially the 1 and 1-opening. So I think you should contact him and ask for the improvements.

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Posted 2007-September-05, 02:51

I've played and played against Magic which is basically the same but better. I can claim this as it was designed not by me but by someone way smarter ;)

However my version is much simpler for simple souls like myself!

http://www.geocities...dge/magicd.html
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Posted 2007-September-05, 03:23

Just had a look at this and totally agree with Frederick. This is a very poorly designed system. Everyone thinks their own system is wonderful and it usually isn't. Magic D on the other hand is a real system. Why not stick to something tried and true and build on sound fundementals.
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Posted 2007-September-05, 12:27

1D is a waste of a bid and 2C seems unplayable.

I'm not sure what the advantages are supposed to be.

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Posted 2007-September-05, 13:02

Free, on Aug 30 2007, 04:30 PM, said:

not to mention the 2 opening!

Since 'only one bid fits', 2 clubs cannot have-

A 4 card major
A 6 card diamond suit
Balanced or semi balanced.

In theory, the only 4 card club suit then you could have is 5431: 5 diamonds, 4 clubs, 3-1 in the majors.

If you define 5431 3-1 in the majors as semibalanced (I would), then there is no possible club suit with 4 cards, and the only possible ones with only 5 cards would also have 5+ diamonds.

So 2 clubs does look playable, it's just the description is lacking.
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Posted 2007-September-06, 06:03

jtfanclub, on Sep 5 2007, 08:02 PM, said:

Free, on Aug 30 2007, 04:30 PM, said:

not to mention the 2 opening!

Since 'only one bid fits', 2 clubs cannot have-

A 4 card major
A 6 card diamond suit
Balanced or semi balanced.

In theory, the only 4 card club suit then you could have is 5431: 5 diamonds, 4 clubs, 3-1 in the majors.

It's clearly better to stick the (31)54s into 2.
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Posted 2007-September-06, 06:30

MickyB, on Sep 6 2007, 07:03 AM, said:

It's clearly better to stick the (31)54s into 2.

I'm not sure. If 2 diamonds is an inquiry of some sort, then it's better to stick it somewhere else. If 2 diamonds is suit preference (the 2C opener will have 3+ diamonds a very large % of the time) then I suppose it will live just fine in 2 clubs.

You're always going to have some garbage hands that you'd just as soon ignore so as to increase the purity of your bidding system. I am not convinced that making 2D and 2C both somewhat impure (6+ most of the time) is better than 2 diamonds pure and 2 clubs very impure. You just bid as if partner had promised 5+ clubs and 3+ diamonds and if doesn't have that, you'll find out soon enough.
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