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Scoring: MP

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W____N____E____S
__________1♦___Pass
2♣___4♠___6♣___?

[skjaeran]

I might help them get to a making grand, but since I expect our save in 7♠ to be good vs 6♣ at this vulnerability, I'll go for 6♠ now. If it goes P P 7♣, I'll be bidding in front of partner at the 7-level. I'll pass then and think partner will save without a defensive trick.

[mikeh]

I bid 6♠. If LHO bids 7♣ and partner doubles, I lead a ♥. If LHO passes (to invite grand) or bids it and partner passes, I save. If LHO doubles and RHO pulls (an impossible auction... he would have bid 5♠ if he held any hand that remotely justifies this), I bid 7♠.

But I'm not bidding 7♠ unless I have to. This could easily be 1400 against 1370. I might not save in 7♠ if the opps seem incompetent, for that reason: 1400 will rarely be a good score and I am unwilling to rely upon bad opps.

[Fluffy]

I have 0 tricks for partner, he will know what to do, pass

[Halo]

Pass

I don't hold good cards, so I sometimes try too hard on reasonable cards, this is a joke, or once in a lifetime.

I don't bet on once in a lifetime (good tune ...)

[skjaeran]

Fluffy, on Jun 15 2007, 06:46 PM, said:

I have 0 tricks for partner, he will know what to do, pass

He won't know that you have 5-card support though. If you pass partner will never save.

[Foxx]

Let's do some math.

Partner has seven spades and we'll have seven spade tricks unless the opponents' singleton is the ace.

The opponents should be looking at 9-10 clubs for their bidding. More than half the time, I'll be able to score either a diamond ruff or a heart ruff in my hand. Partner's only distribution that screws us is 7-3-2-1.

That means we have eight tricks in spades and we can bid 6♠ and be prepared to push to 7♠, letting them take 1100 against their slam. If they're getting more, they'll usually be cold for a grand slam.

[cherdano]

If this is a BBO individual I definitely pass. -1100 and -1370 will both be a terrible score, not much of a difference, but on the other hand I have little reason to trust their bidding and good hopes for +100. Only reason to bid 6S would be to hope they will push to 7♣ and go down 2 instead of 1.

[Fluffy]

skaeran, on Jun 15 2007, 08:24 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jun 15 2007, 06:46 PM, said:

I have 0 tricks for partner, he will know what to do, pass

He won't know that you have 5-card support though. If you pass partner will never save.

I would never say never , 6♠ at this vul doesn't look like an impossible option when we failed to double.

[jdonn]

Fluffy, on Jun 15 2007, 08:56 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jun 15 2007, 08:24 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jun 15 2007, 06:46 PM, said:

I have 0 tricks for partner, he will know what to do, pass

He won't know that you have 5-card support though. If you pass partner will never save.

I would never say never , 6♠ at this vul doesn't look like an impossible option when we failed to double.

Yes it does...

[gwnn]

6♠. Partner will kill us if we pass and it works out bad.

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Halo, on Jun 15 2007, 02:32 PM, said:

Pass

I don't hold good cards, so I sometimes try too hard on reasonable cards, this is a joke, or once in a lifetime.

I don't bet on once in a lifetime (good tune ...

No jokes here, not BBO hand too, but real hand and people. Money tournament -YES! U are taking my picture too seriosely. In my next post I'l send a link to the hand with the full results. Such kind of hands are not so rare after machine dealing.

[helene_t]

Agree with Arend. It's generally a bad idea to sac against slams at matchpoints unless you expect the field to bid the same slam. The wild auction plus the fact that it's an indy suggests that most of the field will not be in 6♣. Our best chance for a decent MP score is that 6♣ isn't the right contract.

[jdeegan]

6♠ with the worry that it might propel them into a makable grand in clubs after a spade void-showing forcing pass. If they bid seven clubs and partner doesn't double in front of me, I'm taking the push to 7♠. If they have the spade ace and 13 tricks and bid 7NT, too bad.

LOTT promises lottsa tricks. We seem to have 12 ♠. They likely have 9 or 10 ♣. There is a spade void. All this adds to 22 or 23 total tricks, so our save figures to be cheap enough.

[P_Marlowe]

Fluffy, on Jun 15 2007, 11:46 AM, said:

I have 0 tricks for partner, he will know what to do, pass

A bit pessimistic, I would say, you have a
ruffing value in diamonds, but this makes
only one trick.

The main trouble is, that you have to decide
if you trust the oppoentsor not, partner may
have defence, since he faces a passed partner,
I would say throw a dice, playing MP it is a game,
and even playing IMP's I need to be certain about
the quality of my opponents to make it a clear 6S bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[marcD]

Difficult problem at MP . Facing a passed hand, 4S can be anything and the 6C is suspicious . It may be right to pass but at the table i would probably bid 6D to show my void () try to play 6Sx

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Scoring: MP

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After an analyse of the hand I remembered the good old "streaptail ape"DOUBLE-it could work here. When they redouble -we slip off to 6♠. Nobody mention this variant-and it's OK-nobody knows they have a GRAND. So the idea to say 6♠ and next 7♠ (if partner is Pass) have some defects. They still have 2 bids -Double and 7NT. -2140 wasn't so bad result anyway 61%. Now I think the PASS is best.Yes I sed 6♠ and passed 7♣.
The real nand is here:
http://www.freewebs....0tail%20ape.jpg

[P_Marlowe]

asc, on Jun 16 2007, 02:30 AM, said:

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No jokes here, not BBO hand too, but real hand and people. Money tournament -YES!
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I would suggest to add this information beforehand.
And also information about the field quality.

With kind regards
Marlowe