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Over 1H
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:38
Pard opens 1♥, all vul IMP pairs and you look at:
Your call please?
Your call please?
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:41
2H. If you play 2H as constructive, this is a hand that may help you see the error of your ways 
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:43
2♠ shows my hand, nothing else does.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:43
No expert here, and I'm about to prove it....
If 3♥ is pre-emptive (0+ hcp, 4+ hearts) I'll choose that. 3 hearts and a void has to be worth more than 4 hearts and a doubleton, and the hcp is certainly right.
If 3♥ is pre-emptive (0+ hcp, 4+ hearts) I'll choose that. 3 hearts and a void has to be worth more than 4 hearts and a doubleton, and the hcp is certainly right.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:50
2♥. The only other call I'd consider would be 1♠.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:53
2♥ for me.
2♠ doesnt tell the story of the hand it hide the ♥ fit and shows a weaker hand in tricks potential.
I would consider 1♠ and supporting ♥ later but i think most play that doign this usually shows a stronger hand, so im lft with 2♥.
2♠ doesnt tell the story of the hand it hide the ♥ fit and shows a weaker hand in tricks potential.
I would consider 1♠ and supporting ♥ later but i think most play that doign this usually shows a stronger hand, so im lft with 2♥.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 09:55
Fluffy, on Jun 4 2007, 05:43 PM, said:
2♠ shows my hand, nothing else does.
ditto
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:02
Flame, on Jun 4 2007, 10:53 AM, said:
2♥ for me.
2♠ doesnt tell the story of the hand it hide the ♥ fit and shows a weaker hand in tricks potential.
I would consider 1♠ and supporting ♥ later but i think most play that doign this usually shows a stronger hand, so im lft with 2♥.
2♠ doesnt tell the story of the hand it hide the ♥ fit and shows a weaker hand in tricks potential.
I would consider 1♠ and supporting ♥ later but i think most play that doign this usually shows a stronger hand, so im lft with 2♥.
Agree with 2♥ here.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:03
Pass.
It's what I chose and I may be its only representative! I like to get extreme weakness across early, freeing me up for the later auction (I fondly hope).
It's what I chose and I may be its only representative! I like to get extreme weakness across early, freeing me up for the later auction (I fondly hope).
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:14
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2♠ shows my hand, nothing else does.
This depends on your agreements. For me, 2S denies 3 hearts. Support with support.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:24
2♥, ruff these ♦s in the short hand...
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:27
1♠ of course. If I later give preference to hearts or correct 1N to 2♥ that doesn't show a good hand.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:31
cherdano, on Jun 4 2007, 08:27 AM, said:
1♠ of course. If I later give preference to hearts or correct 1N to 2♥ that doesn't show a good hand.
This isn't universal Arend. If pard bids 2 minor, 2♥ sounds like a forced preference.
If pard bids 1N, many play 2♥ as a borderline limit raise.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:34
OK, I have enough responses. I tried 2♥.
Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit).
Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call?
Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit).
Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call?
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:35
pclayton, on Jun 4 2007, 10:31 AM, said:
cherdano, on Jun 4 2007, 08:27 AM, said:
1♠ of course. If I later give preference to hearts or correct 1N to 2♥ that doesn't show a good hand.
This isn't universal Arend. If pard bids 2 minor, 2♥ sounds like a forced preference.
If pard bids 1N, many play 2♥ as a borderline limit raise.
I know that's why I am saying it isn't for me.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:40
1♠: no second choice.
If partner rebids 1N: I happily bid 2♠, even tho that is presumably constructive, but (I hope) non-invitational. My hand is worth this opposite a doubleton ♠ and 5♥s.
If he rebids 2 minor, I have a comfortable 2♥ preference: I don't care that I have an extra ♥... I have a compensating lack of hcp.
If he raises ♠s: well, my guess would be to pass a single raise and to accept an invite... we are vul at imp pairs whene making thin vulnerable games is a huge plus.
If he rebids 2N: I get out in 3♠ (surely I can do that?)
If he jumpshifts, then I am not going to be all that embarrassed with my 3♥ preference.
If he jumps to 3♥, I pass... this is not inconsistent with accepting a raise to 3♠.
If partner rebids 1N: I happily bid 2♠, even tho that is presumably constructive, but (I hope) non-invitational. My hand is worth this opposite a doubleton ♠ and 5♥s.
If he rebids 2 minor, I have a comfortable 2♥ preference: I don't care that I have an extra ♥... I have a compensating lack of hcp.
If he raises ♠s: well, my guess would be to pass a single raise and to accept an invite... we are vul at imp pairs whene making thin vulnerable games is a huge plus.
If he rebids 2N: I get out in 3♠ (surely I can do that?)
If he jumpshifts, then I am not going to be all that embarrassed with my 3♥ preference.
If he jumps to 3♥, I pass... this is not inconsistent with accepting a raise to 3♠.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:43
mikeh, on Jun 4 2007, 08:40 AM, said:
1♠: no second choice.
If partner rebids 1N: I happily bid 2♠, even tho that is presumably constructive, but (I hope) non-invitational. My hand is worth this opposite a doubleton ♠ and 5♥s.
If he rebids 2 minor, I have a comfortable 2♥ preference: I don't care that I have an extra ♥... I have a compensating lack of hcp.
If he raises ♠s: well, my guess would be to pass a single raise and to accept an invite... we are vul at imp pairs whene making thin vulnerable games is a huge plus.
If he rebids 2N: I get out in 3♠ (surely I can do that?)
If he jumpshifts, then I am not going to be all that embarrassed with my 3♥ preference.
If he jumps to 3♥, I pass... this is not inconsistent with accepting a raise to 3♠.
If partner rebids 1N: I happily bid 2♠, even tho that is presumably constructive, but (I hope) non-invitational. My hand is worth this opposite a doubleton ♠ and 5♥s.
If he rebids 2 minor, I have a comfortable 2♥ preference: I don't care that I have an extra ♥... I have a compensating lack of hcp.
If he raises ♠s: well, my guess would be to pass a single raise and to accept an invite... we are vul at imp pairs whene making thin vulnerable games is a huge plus.
If he rebids 2N: I get out in 3♠ (surely I can do that?)
If he jumpshifts, then I am not going to be all that embarrassed with my 3♥ preference.
If he jumps to 3♥, I pass... this is not inconsistent with accepting a raise to 3♠.
FWIW, pard tries 2♣ over 1♠. He probably passes 2♥.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 10:59
pclayton, on Jun 4 2007, 12:34 PM, said:
OK, I have enough responses. I tried 2♥.
Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit).
Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call?
Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit).
Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call?
uhh, no...you were bidding 2♥ because it's more preemptive than passing and you're "close" to having the bid
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Posted 2007-June-04, 11:03
pbleighton, on Jun 4 2007, 10:41 AM, said:
2H. If you play 2H as constructive, this is a hand that may help you see the error of your ways
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Pass. I play 2H as constructive.
I do not think this is close to 2H constructive for me.
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Posted 2007-June-04, 11:06
BTW most people screw up a lot after the opps bid 1M-2M -- I noticed youre playing IMP pairs so if I didnt respect my opps then I would bid 2♥ for sure....not 1♠
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