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My rant (and a couple of bidding problems)

#21 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2007-June-06, 09:01

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1) Really depends on what you think partner needs for the 3H bid. Partner has xxx QJ109xx x xxx which I think is not enough. It's one thing to have discussed these auctions (which we have) another really to have pinned down what values a bid shows because it's a very rare auction.

At the table I moved over 4 but I've been persuaded since that this was wrong, as partner's 4H bid is his weakest action.  We went one off in 5H. Team-mates did not find the 3D overcall and defended 4H.


I think your partner should have bid 4 on the first hand and that 3 then 4 shows a bit better than this. I would assign the blame to him/her on that one.
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Posted 2007-June-06, 09:36

Apollo81, on Jun 6 2007, 07:01 AM, said:

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1) Really depends on what you think partner needs for the 3H bid. Partner has xxx QJ109xx x xxx which I think is not enough. It's one thing to have discussed these auctions (which we have) another really to have pinned down what values a bid shows because it's a very rare auction.

At the table I moved over 4 but I've been persuaded since that this was wrong, as partner's 4H bid is his weakest action.  We went one off in 5H. Team-mates did not find the 3D overcall and defended 4H.


I think your partner should have bid 4 on the first hand and that 3 then 4 shows a bit better than this. I would assign the blame to him/her on that one.

A direct 4 seems very strange to me with only 6, since this may be an acceptable dummy for spades.

3 is a function of agreement, as far as strength and suit quality, although I think I called her hand spot on earlier.

I am going to discuss this with my regular pard today, by the way.
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Posted 2007-June-06, 10:59

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 03:52 PM, said:

Team's word of wisdom after the match were:
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4. We can still win the Pachabo, the Brighton Teams and the Gold Cup this year. And the Surrey Bowl (our local pivot teams event).

Good luck in the Pachabo this weekend ... another competition that I believe uses a unique method of scoring.

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I don't work for BBO and any advice is based on my BBO experience over the decades
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Posted 2007-June-06, 16:20

FrancesHinden, on Jun 6 2007, 01:24 PM, said:

1) Really depends on what you think partner needs for the 3H bid. (...) partner's 4H bid is his weakest action.

I thought pass to 3 was his weakest action. I'm sorry, but pard was WAY undisciplined here and he takes full blame.

You cannot mastermind with a weak hand. Especially if pard has a GF!!!!!!
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Posted 2007-June-10, 13:53

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

So, yesterday we played the final of the English mixed teams KO, 60 boards against de Botton/Sandqvist/JT Hackett/Malinowski.  We were winning after sets 2,3,4, and 5 but not after the final 10 boards. I hate losing close matches. I particularly hate losing finals (all that effort to get so far). I hate losing the final of an event where I'm the current holder and my team is (arguably) favourite. I hate that our record in the final of this event is now won 2, lost 3.
Green with envy :)

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

  I hate that, following their dire last set card, our team-mates had a shouting match in the pub after the match (particularly as it was timed so that suddenly I had to pay for the drinks). I hate that the margin was close enough that we all know we could have done one thing different and won. I hate that we can't really say that we got the worst of the luck. I hate that I can't blame the result on random wild swingy hands, it was a very flat match. I hate not being able to sleep after losing difficult matches and then feel rotten all next day. I hate that this was the first KO match I have lost for just under a year.
Sick as a parrot :)

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

Team's word of wisdom after the match were:
1. It's only a game (for our team, anyway).
2. We made some of the opposing team extra money via their win bonus, whilst all we lost out on was a small bit of prize money.
3. If you don't really hate losing how can you ever enjoy winning?
4. We can still win the Pachabo, the Brighton Teams and the Gold Cup this year. And the Surrey Bowl (our local pivot teams event).
Brighton? I'm cancelling my entry :)

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

Now I've got that off my chest (thanks for sharing), here are a few of our disasters:
1. Teams Red RHO deals A Q T x K x A K T x x A K
(_P_) 2 (3 ) 3
(_P_) 3 N (_P_) 4
(_P_)  _?_
Your agreement is that double of 3D would show "a bad hand", pass forcing. What do you think partner has? What do you do now?
IMO 5 = 10, _P_ = 9, 6 = 8 I've already shown ths hand? :( Well perhaps partner wasn't listening :) Pity partner is unlikely to hold honours :(

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

2. Teams Red You deal x A T x A Q x x x K J x x
1   (2 )  4 (fit) (4 )
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IMO 5 = 10, 4 N = 9, 5 = 8, 5 = 7.
You have a great hand bit partner still needs quite a lot.

FrancesHinden, on Jun 4 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

3. Teams Amber LHO deals J x x x x K J T x x K x x -
2 (Precision) 3 (pre-empt) _X_ (take-out) ?
IMO 4 = 10, 5 = 7, 3 = 6, _P_ = 4. Opponents may have a club slam unless partner has a club stack :) Oh dear :( that's not so unlikely :(
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