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In Chicago the trials to represent USA are going on right now. My teammate had this interesting problem:
Kxx
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red/white imps the auction begins
1C p 2N(game forcing)
Would you bid 3H or 4H or something else? If you bid 3H and plan on bidding again over 3N please specify.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 12:37
I'd bid 4♥ and get ready to apologize if I go for 500/800.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 13:28
Seems like opps are gonna end up in 3NT and that doesn't rate to go down. I'm tempted into 4♥, but I'd like to know what my teammates auction would be 
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Posted 2007-June-01, 13:40
I would bid 4♥ even though I expect to go for too much, just on the offchance that either they are psyching or that partner has his few cards (if any) cards in the majors and I can fluke into a make.
I want to edit and add it might put LHO under pressure if as seems quite possible he holds the minors.
I want to edit and add it might put LHO under pressure if as seems quite possible he holds the minors.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 13:47
Pass
bidding is not over yet.
bidding is not over yet.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 15:37
4H
Not a shiver, not a hesitation. Willing to discuss if it should have been 5H or some other distraction.
Not a shiver, not a hesitation. Willing to discuss if it should have been 5H or some other distraction.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 00:36
If partner has anything in clubs 3NT can be slammed, but probably he just doesn't ahve anything at all.
My plan is to bid 3♥ and then 4♥ over 3NT.
My plan is to bid 3♥ and then 4♥ over 3NT.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 01:30
4♥. It might make, it might be a good save, it might steal enough room to get opps overboard..... there's a lot of good things that might happen.
Of course it might cost 2-3 IMPs if 500 vs a game (who cares?), it might be a phantom or I might go for 800 vs a game.
Maybe the downside is bigger than the upside - I really don't know. But I like to put on pressure.
Of course it might cost 2-3 IMPs if 500 vs a game (who cares?), it might be a phantom or I might go for 800 vs a game.
Maybe the downside is bigger than the upside - I really don't know. But I like to put on pressure.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 03:20
Only worth bidding once, so I'll go for 4♥ too.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 10:25
Yeah, I like 4♥ too. RHO might be frothing at this, but I'll bet LHO acts with his shape. I doubt I can beat 3N, but I like my chances vs 5♣.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 11:03
3h than 4h, may get xed earlier
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Posted 2007-June-02, 13:36
Sambolino, on Jun 2 2007, 12:03 PM, said:
3h than 4h, may get xed earlier
OK - limitless optimism?
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Posted 2007-June-02, 15:56
Hmmm
I was looking at some of the hands from the RR. I believe that this was board #3.
That 1 club bid was rather light, I think you can beat 3NT. Basically if you bid 4H for a make, you are playing P to have a heart (or 2 or stiff honor, or for hearts to break 2-2) and either Spade ace or QJ. But, if P doesn't have this, then 3NT likely makes, and the question is whether or not you can hold 4H to down 1 vul. This seems like one of those "are you feeling lucky?" type of hands.
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I was looking at some of the hands from the RR. I believe that this was board #3.
That 1 club bid was rather light, I think you can beat 3NT. Basically if you bid 4H for a make, you are playing P to have a heart (or 2 or stiff honor, or for hearts to break 2-2) and either Spade ace or QJ. But, if P doesn't have this, then 3NT likely makes, and the question is whether or not you can hold 4H to down 1 vul. This seems like one of those "are you feeling lucky?" type of hands.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 16:17
results: 3N and 4H are both makers. My teammate bid 3H and sold to 3N, not a success.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 16:22
Jlall, on Jun 2 2007, 05:17 PM, said:
results: 3N and 4H are both makers. My teammate bid 3H and sold to 3N, not a success.
Partner's fault -- he's supposed to have KJx in hearts and clubs blocked.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 17:35
I guess this one lost me. I passed.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 18:11
mike777, on Jun 2 2007, 06:35 PM, said:
I guess this one lost me. I passed.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
Not if LHO wanted to rebid clubs or bid a new suit.
Also not if he psyched his opening bid and will pass 2NT (not that I expect it, but 4♥ right away certainly solves that issue.)
Different question. What do you gain by passing first?
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 18:47
jdonn, on Jun 2 2007, 07:11 PM, said:
mike777, on Jun 2 2007, 06:35 PM, said:
I guess this one lost me. I passed.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
Not if LHO wanted to rebid clubs or bid a new suit.
Also not if he psyched his opening bid and will pass 2NT (not that I expect it, but 4♥ right away certainly solves that issue.)
Different question. What do you gain by passing first?
I would hope to learn something by shutting up and listening.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 20:15
mike777, on Jun 2 2007, 07:47 PM, said:
jdonn, on Jun 2 2007, 07:11 PM, said:
mike777, on Jun 2 2007, 06:35 PM, said:
I guess this one lost me. I passed.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
It seems if lho bids 3nt, expected, we can always bid 4H next round.
I would think bidding 4H next round gives them just as much a problem as bidding it one round earlier.
Not if LHO wanted to rebid clubs or bid a new suit.
Also not if he psyched his opening bid and will pass 2NT (not that I expect it, but 4♥ right away certainly solves that issue.)
Different question. What do you gain by passing first?
I would hope to learn something by shutting up and listening.
Can you please give an example of how the auction could go that would teach you something useful to you?
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 20:58
Learned something useful from LHO bid and RHO bid after my pass.
Expected but expected is useful.
Expected but expected is useful.