[pbleighton]

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Yes we will undergo a reinvention of our economy. Yes our culture will continue to change as it has for 200 years.

Yes it will, but the fact that we're being poky about it creates unnnecessary destruction.

Peter

[mike777]

Poky? Jefferson was killing Indians and raping his Black slave girls 200 years ago.
Talk about not worrying about shredding Liberty to get what he wanted.
40 years ago blacks in this town went to seperate schools, bathrooms, hotels, drinking fountains.

I mentioned this before I think change is going on at an exponential pace in communication, health, computers, tech, brain science and many many other fields.

To go from having no phone to having cell phones in China and India is not growth/change at 5% or 10% a year. It is much more than that, closer to 100% every few years.

[Winstonm]

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What do you fear with all this oil talk really? Do you expect you and your family to be back in caves and without fire or the wheel?

Fear? What reason is there for fear in understanding potential threats? My point is that we (most people) are discounting or ignoring an inevitable and thus creating a condition for greater havoc than necessary.

You are right that in the big picture economies can restore themselves over 20-40 years, but for someone whose bulk of life is captured by those 40 bad years would surely have preferred to ahve lived before the collapse or after the change had been completed.

The basic premise here is that when someone brings up declining oil reserves, the instant comeback is higher prices, like that's the end of the story; while higher prices would occur, this is only a minor inconveniece compared to the staggering amount of redistribution of wealth and enonomies that would then occur.

It is a misunderstanding to think the U.S. is still a world power other than in its military might - the U.S. is totally dependent of FCBs to finance its debt while it cannot sustain its oil demand without imports.

A country that relies on a Blanche Dubois enonomy to sustain its debts and energy demands can at best be considered a vulnerable superpower in its declining years.

I'm just wondering how long until we are all standing out on the streets yelling, "Stella!"

[pbleighton]

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Poky? Jefferson was killing Indians and raping his Black slave girls 200 years ago.

I don't understand. We've had clear signals for over thirty years that we need to do something about oil consumption, and we have done very little. What does this have to do with Jefferson?

Peter

[Gerben42]

Who is Stella? And who is Blanche Dubois?

[jtfanclub]

Gerben42, on May 11 2007, 07:04 AM, said:

Who is Stella? And who is Blanche Dubois?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Streetcar_N...sire_%28play%29

[Al_U_Card]

One of them was Shelley Winters and Marlon Brando kept yelling "Stella" which was not his italian word lesson for the day.... (Or perhaps he was daydreaming about being an archeologist surrounded by Mayan artifacts?)

Face it, there's a hole in the roof, but its still sunny outside (although getting warmer all the time....) so why bother fixing that damn hole? Now, when the rains come....welllll....who wants to go out and work in the rain????

[Winstonm]

Gerben42, on May 11 2007, 07:04 AM, said:

Who is Stella? And who is Blanche Dubois?

Characters in the play turned into movie, A Streetcar Named Desire.

Blanche Dubois commented at the end of the movie, "I've always relied on the kindness of strangers."

Stella was the lead character's wife.

[Winstonm]

pbleighton, on May 11 2007, 06:13 AM, said:

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Poky? Jefferson was killing Indians and raping his Black slave girls 200 years ago.

I don't understand. We've had clear signals for over thirty years that we need to do something about oil consumption, and we have done very little. What does this have to do with Jefferson?

Peter

Jefferson didn't do anything about oil consumption, either.

[pbleighton]

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Jefferson didn't do anything about oil consumption, either.

Got you! I knew I was missing something.

Peter

[Al_U_Card]

Winstonm, on May 11 2007, 06:38 PM, said:

Gerben42, on May 11 2007, 07:04 AM, said:

Who is Stella? And who is Blanche Dubois?

Characters in the play turned into movie, A Streetcar Named Desire.

Blanche Dubois commented at the end of the movie, "I've always relied on the kindness of strangers."

Stella was the lead character's wife.

Wasn't that quote from Gone with the Wind?