[Erkson]

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Here is the output from the three file types with one program.

The program automatically detects the file type.

Wonderful job, Wayne !

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Does anyone know if history.lin files store the scoring condition in any way?

It doesn't.
To know the scoring condition you need to read the
Bridge Base Online - Hand Viewer.htm
page, on which you clicked to get the history.lin

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I discovered while writing this post that hard spaces do not cut and paste very well from the post preview.  They turn into soft spaces :-(

I saw that reading the page source. But if they actually turned into soft spaces, a serie of those spaces would be displayed as a single space, which doesn't happen.
The source shows soft spaces but they are hard ones. A mystery.

Erkson

[Erkson]

Cascade, on Feb 29 2004, 01:26 AM, said:

I discovered a 4th type of lin file just now.

If I look at a movie from a played table and save that to my hard drive.

This file has some different characteristics.

I think I have updated the program to cope but I have not double checked that it still works with the previous file types.

Wayne

I clicked on a tourney, chose a table, clicked on MOVIE, on SAVE, and got this file (I deleted names):

vg|Uploaded Deal,,I,7,7,,,,,|rs|,,|pn|....|pg||qx|o7|
md|1SK964HA62DKT763C9,SA2HJT975DJ9C7543,
SJ87DAQ52CAQJ862,SQT53HKQ843D84CKT|
sv|b|
pn|........|
mb|---pp1C1H2D2H3D3H4Dppp-|pg||
pc|SA|pc|S7|pc|S3|pc|S4|pg||
........

The difference with this other movie.lin (I can't remember how I got it !) :

vg|Uploaded Deal,,I,3,3,,,,,|rs|5CWxx=,,|pn|....|pg||qx|o3|
md|1S3HJ76432DAQ32CA3,SA2HAQ9D4CQJ96542,
SKJT9875HT85D97C7,SQ64HKDKJT865CKT8|
sv|e|
mb|---1H2C4H5Cdrppp|
pn|.....|pg||
pc|H5|pc|HK|pc|H2|pc|H9|pg||
.....

and a deal created using MOVIE and SAVE :

vg|,,P,1,1,,0,,0|
rs|,,|
pn|,,,,,,,|
mp|,|
pw|,,,|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3DAKQJT98765432,CAKQJT98765432,SAKQJT98765432,HAKQJT98765432|nt||sv|0|pg||

is the place of sv| and second pn| tags.
Is that what you mean ?

When BBO standardise its lin format, I will dance in the street.

Erkson

[Cascade]

I didn't look that closely my program was stumbling on some end of lines.

[Erkson]

Cascade, on Feb 29 2004, 06:34 AM, said:

I didn't look that closely my program was stumbling on some end of lines.

OK, Wayne.

I understand it was a problem with some lin files made of few long lines, and other made of a succession of shorter lines with carriage return and linefeed.

Erkson

[Erkson]

Cascade, on Feb 29 2004, 01:26 AM, said:

I discovered while writing this post that hard spaces do not cut and paste very well from the post preview.  They turn into soft spaces :-(

This is a test of the preview function
First I write 4 bids separated by 6 soft spaces :
1♣ 1♦ 1♥ 1♠

Then I write 4 bids separated by 6 hard spaces :
1♣     1♦     1♥     1♠

I will read the source made by BBO Forum software for this post with preview and then without preview, and see if there is a different result for the first auction line and the second one.

Now without preview :
This is a test of the preview function
First I write 4 bids separated by 6 soft spaces :
1♣ 1♦ 1♥ 1♠

Then I write 4 bids separated by 6 hard spaces :
1♣      1♦      1♥      1♠

Results of the test :
The preview replaces & #160;  by a space, which is displayed as a hard space.
If you don't use the preview : & #160; are preserved in the source.
But in both cases if you cut and paste a post you loose the hard spaces, because cut and paste of a html page doesn't cut and paste the html tags but the text.

Erkson

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