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Posted 2007-March-29, 02:59

effervesce, on Mar 29 2007, 05:51 AM, said:

I like the idea of 2H as a multi - more preemptive as unlike 2D multi the opponents "know" the 2D opening partner will bid again and can pass with strong hands then double later. It'll also let me try out this idea i've had for a while for a system (polish club/moscito relay hybrid):

1C = 15+ any or 12-14 6+C/5+C 4M
 [space] [space] 1D = game force 8+QP not 5440 type shape
 [space] [space] 1H = 5-7QP balanced may have 5M/unbalanced no 5M
 [space] [space] 1S = 0-4QP any
 [space] [space] 1NT = 5-7QP 5+H 4+ another
 [space] [space] 2C = 5-7QP 5+S 4+ minor
 [space] [space] 2D = 5-7QP 5+S 4+H
 [space] [space] 2H/2S = 5-7QP singlesuiter
 [space] [space] 2NT+ = game forcing 8+QP 5440 shapes
1D = 10-14 2+D
1H/1S = 10-14 4+ suit
1NT = 15-17 bal
2C = weak, 5/5 blacks/reds/majors
2D = weak, 5/5 pointed/round
2H = multi (wk 2 in a major)
2S = weak, 5/5 minors


Wonder how this'll work out :-)

BRRRRRRRR looks aweful (sorry to be so direct). I've toyed with the idea of playing 1 as a 15+HCP or 10-14 with 6+ to get the entire 2-level free, and leave the strong structure pretty much intact. This however doesn't work from the moment opponents intervene. 15+ is a huge range, whereas polish club 18+ or 19+ is rare and has lots more playing strength, so it can bid with ease.

Just imagine how you'll cope with auctions like 1-2M or 1-3M. How will you ever be able to show the difference between hands with with 12-14HCP, 15-17HCP, 18-20HCP, 21-23HCP,...? I even took 3-point ranges already :wacko: Playing 15+HCP any you still have trouble but there's a range less, which puts me in a better position. How about 5-4OM-3 hands? You can't make a takeout double anymore. Better open these 2 imo.
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Posted 2007-March-29, 18:42

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BRRRRRRRR looks aweful (sorry to be so direct). I've toyed with the idea of playing 1♣ as a 15+HCP or 10-14 with 6+♣ to get the entire 2-level free, and leave the strong ♣ structure pretty much intact. This however doesn't work from the moment opponents intervene. 15+ is a huge range, whereas polish club 18+ or 19+ is rare and has lots more playing strength, so it can bid with ease.

Just imagine how you'll cope with auctions like 1♣-2M or 1♣-3M. How will you ever be able to show the difference between hands with ♣ with 12-14HCP, 15-17HCP, 18-20HCP, 21-23HCP,...? I even took 3-point ranges already  Playing 15+HCP any you still have trouble but there's a range less, which puts me in a better position. How about 5♣-4OM-3♦ hands? You can't make a takeout double anymore. Better open these 2♣ imo.


Yeah I've thought about that too - then again with the 15+ strong club you'd have a similar problem already after 1C - (2H) or 1C - (3H)- the 1C opening itself is intrinsically tactically weak to interference.

However, I think this would be counterbalanced (as in polish club where it could be a weak NT) where the opponents cant interfere on nothing anymore in fear of losing their own game? 1C - (2H) or 1C - (3H) now genuinely has to be a weak 2 or 3 bid for fear of preempting their own partner. Until tested, I believe that sure, the 1C - (2H) in such a structure would be affected more by such interference, but the upside is LESS INTERFERENCE due to the possibly weaker nature of the 1C opening.
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