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3H is Michaels (spades and a minor). What is 3NT?
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2H-3H-P-3NT
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Posted 2006-November-18, 19:13
pbleighton, on Nov 19 2006, 02:43 AM, said:
3H is Michaels (spades and a minor). What is 3NT?
To play.
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Posted 2006-November-18, 19:58
Game try in NT.
3 NT is holy....
3 NT is holy....
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Posted 2006-November-18, 20:08
If you want to investigate the minor, bid 4♣ (or 4N).
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Posted 2006-November-19, 03:14
3NT should always be to play, unless some rare occasions. Here it's clearly TP imo.
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Posted 2006-November-19, 03:19
Hi,
a strong relais, but you have better discussed
this with partner.
With kind regards
Marlowe
a strong relais, but you have better discussed
this with partner.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2006-November-19, 04:04
If 3NT is a possible contract, 3NT is to play.
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Posted 2006-November-21, 18:48
Although you will occasionally get the hand that wants to play in 3NT, I prefer a generic style whereby NT ALWAYS asks for the 2nd suit and bids of the other suits above the lowest level of NT agree the known suit (in this instance S).
THe advantages of the method I use is:-
a) showing fits (double fits) early
indicating fragments/leads
c) allowing for better invitational auctions (eg a level lower)
d) rarely for me - simplicity!!
I doubt that such methods are standard - and in hte absence of specific agreement a 3NT would be assumed to be to play....so I'm with Marlowe.
regards
THe advantages of the method I use is:-
a) showing fits (double fits) early
indicating fragments/leadsc) allowing for better invitational auctions (eg a level lower)
d) rarely for me - simplicity!!
I doubt that such methods are standard - and in hte absence of specific agreement a 3NT would be assumed to be to play....so I'm with Marlowe.
regards
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Posted 2006-November-21, 19:26
pbleighton, on Nov 18 2006, 07:43 PM, said:
3H is Michaels (spades and a minor). What is 3NT?
3NT is a disaster waiting to happen.
I submit that Michaels over a weak two is not the best meaning of the cuebid, but if you're going to play it, you certainly have to discuss how to ask for the minor, and in particular what 3NT means.
Absent discussion, it should be to play.
I like Roman Jump Overcalls here, so with spades and clubs, I bid 3♠, and with spades and diamonds, I bid 4♦. The cuebid would ask partner to bid 3NT with a ♥ stopper. So in the given auction, 3NT would show a heart stopper (and not necessarily anything else).
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Posted 2006-November-22, 01:20
i don't think that it is arguable that the direct cue-bid over a weak two is well utilised as Michaels (IMHO it should be a DAB asking for a stop initially but could be the first move with a huge singlesuiter which is NOT solid).
However the generic sequences are relevant, and IF one was compelled to play such methods, the issue fo responding to 2 suiters at this level arises in many competitve circumstances.
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However the generic sequences are relevant, and IF one was compelled to play such methods, the issue fo responding to 2 suiters at this level arises in many competitve circumstances.
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Posted 2006-November-22, 01:22
What else could it be? 
♥ stop and no good support for spades. I would understand 4♥ to be "bid your minor".
♥ stop and no good support for spades. I would understand 4♥ to be "bid your minor".
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2006-November-22, 02:59
I thought this auction was a perfect example of the "insert politically incorrect term here" cue bid. I have a stopper, do you have a long running minor? 
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Posted 2006-November-22, 04:05
I just play leaping Michaels to show my 2-suited hands, and the cue-bid is just the stopper-ask-3NT-try.
In this case, absent agreement, 3NT should be to play. Either 4♥ or 4♣ (pass/correct) sounds like an intelligent way to find the minor, but 3NT is just to valuable a final contract to sacrifice.
In this case, absent agreement, 3NT should be to play. Either 4♥ or 4♣ (pass/correct) sounds like an intelligent way to find the minor, but 3NT is just to valuable a final contract to sacrifice.
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Posted 2006-November-22, 06:37
To play, unless you've specifically agreed otherwise.
You can bid 4m pass-or-correct
You can bid 4NT to play in partner's minor at the 5-level
You can bid 4H with various slam tries
You can agree to play 3H as game forcing, then you can easily find out partner's minor by bidding 4C. If you don't want to play 3H as FG ou can't find out partner's minor and play in 4S or 5m if it's the right minor.
You can bid 4m pass-or-correct
You can bid 4NT to play in partner's minor at the 5-level
You can bid 4H with various slam tries
You can agree to play 3H as game forcing, then you can easily find out partner's minor by bidding 4C. If you don't want to play 3H as FG ou can't find out partner's minor and play in 4S or 5m if it's the right minor.
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