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interference over two club opening partner re opens with double

Poll: what would you bid (21 member(s) have cast votes)

what would you bid

  1. pass (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  2. 4 clubs (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

  3. 3 hearts (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  4. 3nt (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. i would have bid originally (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  6. i would have doubled originally (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

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#1 User is offline   pigpenz 

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Posted 2006-November-11, 14:32

Auction: imps vul vs vul

2♣ 3♣ pass pass
X pass your bid



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Posted 2006-November-11, 14:39

I voted for 4♣ (over your pd dbl), assuming pd opened 2C, your rho interfered with 3C and you passed.
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Posted 2006-November-11, 14:58

Hi,

since I play neg.X, I would have doubled the first round,
but apparently you play a direct dbl as penalty.

Now I bid 3H, which certainly is forcing, intending to
bid 4D over 3NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2006-November-11, 15:28

no partnership understanding on what direct double would be so i made forcing pass, normally i would play it as a negative double in a set partnership.
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Posted 2006-November-11, 15:41

It is a common treatment that dbl show very weak hand over pd's 2C opening and rho's overcall, suggesting no game interest and preferring defense. So pass is the "right" call.
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Posted 2006-November-11, 16:23

Hi everyone

I play that double and forcing pass are reversed in many auctions. Opening 2C would certainly provide the values for my bidding. I would double here for takeout, 'if' partner choose to pass my forward going double, I would expect a bloodbath to take place.

Without prior agreement, I would lay the double as 'I do not think we have game' do as you wish. Pass should be forcing here in 'standard' methods.

I concur with Marlowe 'if' pass had been forcing, I would now bid 3H over the double.

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Posted 2006-November-12, 06:42

HeartA, on Nov 12 2006, 06:41 AM, said:

It is a common treatment that dbl show very weak hand over pd's 2C opening and rho's overcall, suggesting no game interest and preferring defense. So pass is the "right" call.

I never heard about this very common agreement. So for me double in the first round was easy, even without discussion.
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Posted 2006-November-12, 07:35

There are many 'common' treatments for responder's double of an overcall after partner has opened 2C. The three most popular are

i) take-out
ii) penalties
iii) showing a very weak hand

Pass of course is forcing whatever double means.
I wouldn't have made a negative double on this hand with a void. I would expect partner to pass with 4 trumps, or often 3 trumps and a balanced hand, which will not be the right spot.

There are various meanings for partner's reopening double as well, but I think this is most commonly played as showing a balanced hand. Suits bid.

I now bid 4C. Partner will work out I have very short clubs but didn't fancy bidding a suit last round.
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