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#1 User is offline   kfgauss 

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Posted 2006-July-09, 11:11

4th seat, white vs red, you hold:

AK3 AK9 5 KQ10964

P P P 1C
1D P 2D X
P 2S 3D ?

A. Do you agree with double?

B. What now?

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Posted 2006-July-09, 11:30

i'd bid 4♠
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Posted 2006-July-09, 11:32

I would not have doubled, with 3-3 in the majors. I would have bid 3C. It's close, though.

Now I would pass. Pd's second pass and lack of jump in the third call discourages moving forward in spades.

I would double at matchpoints.

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Posted 2006-July-09, 12:00

Partner obviously has a very weak hand, and we don't have a good fit. I'd pass.

Like Peter I would have bid 3C last round, and then doubled 3D.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-July-09, 12:31

I'm fine with the 1st double. Now I'm kind of boxed, but I think a 2nd double is sensible, although I think it tends to show a 3=4=1=5. 4♣ is too much with this hand.
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Posted 2006-July-09, 12:43

pbleighton, on Jul 9 2006, 12:32 PM, said:

I would not have doubled, with 3-3 in the majors.  I would have bid 3C. 

Peter

i agree

partner had a chance to show something in the majors at the 1-level, and didn't do so. 3♣ for me, especially if playing G/B2NT

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Posted 2006-July-09, 13:31

Double !, on Jul 9 2006, 10:43 AM, said:

pbleighton, on Jul 9 2006, 12:32 PM, said:

I would not have doubled, with 3-3 in the majors.  I would have bid 3C. 

Peter

i agree

partner had a chance to show something in the majors at the 1-level, and didn't do so. #♣ for me, especially if playing G/B2NT

DHL

I'm not saying its universal, but we have defined our g/b auctions. For us, this wouldn't be g/b for 2 reasons:

1. G/B is only on after 2♥ or 2♠; not 2♦ or 2♣.

2. G/B isn't on after pard makes a pass over the overcall. 2N here is clubs and secondary hearts.
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Posted 2006-July-09, 15:09

A) I would have showed my club suit,
but Xis certainly ok
B) Pass
Partner is broke, playing MP and if they
are red, you may dbl, but it is certainly
not clearcut

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Posted 2006-July-10, 05:08

A.) It's ok, though 3♣ is good as well.

B.) Dbl again.
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Posted 2006-July-10, 07:52

Double !, on Jul 9 2006, 01:43 PM, said:

pbleighton, on Jul 9 2006, 12:32 PM, said:

I would not have doubled, with 3-3 in the majors.  I would have bid 3C. 

Peter

i agree

partner had a chance to show something in the majors at the 1-level, and didn't do so. 3♣ for me, especially if playing G/B2NT

DHL

On going discussion of when is good/bad on or off. Even with Bergen book in front of me this seems confusing.
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Posted 2006-July-10, 08:07

Yeah.. unfortunately, there are no 100% clear-cut rules as to when 2NT is good-bad.
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