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6-1-0-6 When and what to bid? The misadventures of Rex and Jay-#5392

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Posted 2006-June-26, 12:00

In third hand, imp match, red vs red, you are dealt:

Scoring: IMP
P

It goes pass, pass to you. First question: Do you open this as any sort of pre-empt?

Rex and I prefer stronger suits vulnerable, so he passed to start.

Assuming you pass, 4th hand opponent opens 1.

Do you act now, and if so, what do you bid?

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Posted 2006-June-26, 12:07

3 at game all seems about right. I am not going to give LHO a free ride.

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Posted 2006-June-26, 12:12

2s, no problems yet.

IF you force me to pass and lho opens 1d, what does every one else bid until my turn again? IF everyone passes I will defend 1D I guess
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Posted 2006-June-26, 12:20

3S.

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Posted 2006-June-26, 12:35

Please make clear if your bid is a) On your first turn [rather than passing], or :blink: on your second turn right after the 1 opening and partner and LHO have passed to start. Thanks...
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Posted 2006-June-26, 12:37

Opening.

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Posted 2006-June-26, 13:55

Red vs Red in 3rd seat? While I am tempted to open 3S (definitely if I was white) I will pass and see how the auction proceeds. 1 QT at the most and only playing strength bodes well for the pre-empt, but why let them in on the secret? Once you have passed (and with freaks like this, bidding three or four times as a passed hand really helps pard to know what to do) you can do what seems appropriate. Once you preempt and it fails, I personally don't want to then introduce my 2nd suit at the 4 or 5 level without giving pard a say.
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Posted 2006-June-26, 15:12

3. Add the Q, and I'll fish out the 4 card.

I don't know what I'd open as dealer.
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Posted 2006-June-26, 18:12

The nice thing about 2s is it may get a 3 card raise out of partner which may help us decide the proper level for this hand. 3s opening will have everyone guessing.

Nice hand to use FTL, fight the law on.
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Posted 2006-June-27, 00:10

This is tough. I might pass.
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Posted 2006-June-27, 04:06

In third seat I cannot imagine passing this, ever. 3 seems right.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-June-27, 05:21

Let's assume for better or worse that you did pass on your first bid. What do you bid over the 1 Diamond opening?
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Posted 2006-June-27, 05:31

1.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-June-27, 05:42

microcap, on Jun 27 2006, 01:21 PM, said:

Let's assume for better or worse that you did pass on your first bid. What do you bid over the 1 Diamond opening?

For worse. I will bid 1 and keep bidding clubs until I am declarer. Then I play slowly until partner leaves for a bathroom break, so he never gets to see my hand.
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Posted 2006-June-27, 06:00

For worse. I will bid 1♠ and keep bidding clubs until I am declarer. Then I play slowly until partner leaves for a bathroom break, so he never gets to see my hand.
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"Sorry partner, there were no printouts of the hand records left."

LOL I have used that one on Rex---he is wise to it now! :) B) :P
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Posted 2006-June-27, 07:35

Hannie, on Jun 27 2006, 06:31 AM, said:

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When compared with :) "In third seat I cannot imagine passing this, ever. 3♠ seems right. " :P There does not seem to be any lack of imagination, Han..... B)
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Posted 2006-June-27, 08:15

:P I had to imagine passing anyway. I tried this, lots of things happened in my head and my fingers typed 1, what can I say? Perhaps one shouldn't be asked what to do after making a pass like that.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-June-27, 09:57

Being the unquestioned genius that I am, I have of course misstated the problem!!

You hold this in first hand, not third.

So a) do you pass originally?

:) Assuming you pass originally and 4th hand bids 1, what do you next overcall?

B) :P B)
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Posted 2006-June-27, 10:05

ARGH! It was just my imagination; runnin' away with me......
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Posted 2006-June-27, 10:12

ARGH! It was just my imagination; runnin' away with me......I like pass and then 4C leaping michaels
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