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#1 User is offline   hutchau 

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Posted 2006-May-27, 23:46

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Dealer opens 3D,you decide you are too good to bid 4S opposite a non passed partner.so you double. Partner bids 4H passed back to you. What do you now bid?

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Posted 2006-May-28, 05:42

I am going to ignore 7H, and just bid 6.

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Posted 2006-May-28, 08:27

You doubled to show a strong hand with s right? So what's the problem? Show your s... :(
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Posted 2006-May-28, 08:58

Does 4 show 5+ or 4+?
If you don't have an agreement or if it shows 4+ , you should bid 4. From what you write it is stronger than direct 3 and 4, it must be forcing.
If it promisses 5+ cards a scientific approach towards a slam seems appropriate.
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Posted 2006-May-28, 09:44

Hi,

4NT, showing the fit, asking for KQ in hearts,
if partner denies holding akey card and the
queen of hearts, I will stop in 5H.

The main problem will be, that the danger of
a diamond ruff is fairly high, and that trumps
maybe 4-2 or 4-1.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2006-May-28, 09:47

Free, on May 28 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

You doubled to show a strong hand with s right? So what's the problem? Show your s... :(

Hi,

what do you think partner will bid
with 5 hearts, a single spade ...
with lots of hands, where 6H is cold,
he will pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I would have bid 4S direct,but having
decided that my hand is more powerful, I am not
going to change my opinion in the middle of
the race.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-May-28, 10:29

It wasn't MY choice to double (I disagree to double here btw), but it's clear the one that doubled wanted to show this kind of hand: (very) strong with lots of s. He should've forseen any problems by partner having 5 or more and bidding at the 4-level immediatly before taking out that red card, not after...
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Posted 2006-May-28, 11:31

"It wasn't MY choice to double (I disagree to double here btw), but it's clear the one that doubled wanted to show this kind of hand: (very) strong with lots of ♠s. He should've forseen any problems by partner having 5 or more ♥ and bidding at the 4-level immediatly before taking out that red card, not after..."

Partner shows you an 8+ heart fit, change gears.

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Posted 2006-May-28, 15:38

P_Marlowe, on May 28 2006, 10:44 AM, said:

4NT, showing the fit, asking for KQ in hearts,

ditto
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Posted 2006-May-28, 18:21

Free, on May 28 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

You doubled to show a strong hand with s right?  So what's the problem?  Show your s...  :)

makes sense to me
and by doubling first, wouldn't that imply heart tolerance?

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Posted 2006-May-28, 18:33

Double !, on May 28 2006, 07:21 PM, said:

Free, on May 28 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

You doubled to show a strong hand with s right?  So what's the problem?  Show your s...  :)

makes sense to me
and by doubling first, wouldn't that imply heart tolerance?

DHL

i don't think it necessarily would... by doubling and then bidding spades over partner's heart bid, it could just show a very strong hand with spades.. it *could* imply hearts also, but i think by bidding spades here it puts partner under a lot of pressure - especially with an 8 card or better heart fit known(?) to exist
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Posted 2006-May-28, 21:55

I'm willing to key card here, but I am deathly afraid of a diamond ruff in 6H.

OTOH I am concerned spades aren't running in 6N, so whatever I do will probably be a guess assuming we have sufficient key cards.
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