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Early this week, pd and I bid the following to 6C.
AQTxx
Kxx
x
K9xx
K
Axx
AKQx
A8xxx
This was MP and 6N stole the bickies. The problem was that I was unable to read a 3H bid by pd as showing the K or a singleton. I was trying to figure out some method for distiguishing the difference, when I came across the following RKCB variant as played by some Polish pairs.
My questions are:
Has anyone here played this?
Even if you haven't, can anyone see obvious advs/disadvs with this method?
Step responses
0-3 KC
1-4 KC
2 KC + 0-3 Kings
2 KC + 1-4 Kings
2 KC + 2 Kings
After these the next step asks for the trump Q
Comments?
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RKCB Variations
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Posted 2003-November-06, 20:52
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2003-November-07, 04:52
First a remark: if you play RKC, you don't have 4 kings left, only 3. So it should be something like:
0/3
1/4
2/5 + 0/3 kings
2/5 + 1 king
2/5 + 2 kings
This actually seems like a version of roman blackwood (that I play when no trump is set), but with keycards in stead of aces... The difference is that showing kings with roman blackwood is 40/1/23 and there are 4 kings.
This RKCB is nice, but I guess it's purpose isn't usefull enough for every slam ambition in a suit. Imo the normal RKCB is better.
0/3
1/4
2/5 + 0/3 kings
2/5 + 1 king
2/5 + 2 kings
This actually seems like a version of roman blackwood (that I play when no trump is set), but with keycards in stead of aces... The difference is that showing kings with roman blackwood is 40/1/23 and there are 4 kings.
This RKCB is nice, but I guess it's purpose isn't usefull enough for every slam ambition in a suit. Imo the normal RKCB is better.
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Posted 2003-November-07, 10:09
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Early this week, pd and I bid the following to 6C.
AQTxx
Kxx
x
K9xx
K
Axx
AKQx
A8xxx
This was MP and 6N stole the bickies. The problem was that I was unable to read a 3H bid by pd as showing the K or a singleton. I was trying to figure out some method for distiguishing the difference, when I came across the following RKCB variant as played by some Polish pairs.
My questions are:
Has anyone here played this?
Even if you haven't, can anyone see obvious advs/disadvs with this method?
Step responses
0-3 KC
1-4 KC
2 KC + 0-3 Kings
2 KC + 1-4 Kings
2 KC + 2 Kings
After these the next step asks for the trump Q
Comments?
AQTxx
Kxx
x
K9xx
K
Axx
AKQx
A8xxx
This was MP and 6N stole the bickies. The problem was that I was unable to read a 3H bid by pd as showing the K or a singleton. I was trying to figure out some method for distiguishing the difference, when I came across the following RKCB variant as played by some Polish pairs.
My questions are:
Has anyone here played this?
Even if you haven't, can anyone see obvious advs/disadvs with this method?
Step responses
0-3 KC
1-4 KC
2 KC + 0-3 Kings
2 KC + 1-4 Kings
2 KC + 2 Kings
After these the next step asks for the trump Q
Comments?
Actually this makes a lot of sense, but as Free points out, there are only 3 Kings left. New thought!! What if you counted the trump Q as a king. Now there would be four kings left and you would no longer need the trump Q ask. Just a thought
Please do not complain about my opinion. I don't have the time to convince you I'm right.
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Posted 2003-November-07, 23:25
Hi Ron!
Try to play 4NT as even KC, skip it with odd KC. This is best way in my opinion, same in competition. Remaining bids below 5 of trump are used for establising Q trump or grand. Example:
AQJ10xxxx Kx
xxx Ax
x QJxx
x AKQxx
4SP 5CL(1)
5DI(2) 5HE(3)
6SP(4)
1. cue, odd KC, here 3 ofcourse
2. cue, KC enough for slam
3. No Q trump or cue for grand
4. Q trump, KC not enough for grand
Misho
Try to play 4NT as even KC, skip it with odd KC. This is best way in my opinion, same in competition. Remaining bids below 5 of trump are used for establising Q trump or grand. Example:
AQJ10xxxx Kx
xxx Ax
x QJxx
x AKQxx
4SP 5CL(1)
5DI(2) 5HE(3)
6SP(4)
1. cue, odd KC, here 3 ofcourse
2. cue, KC enough for slam
3. No Q trump or cue for grand
4. Q trump, KC not enough for grand
Misho
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