[kenrexford]

P-1D-1S-X-? You hold Qxx-Jxxx-x-KQJxx. Your call? My selection worked out because the remaining auction allowed us to declare or defend the right contract in the right manner. Actually, the hand was botched, but for poor reasons. But, we were enabled to do the right thing.

[P_Marlowe]

2D, showing an inv. raise of spades

Marlowe

[hrothgar]

Jlall, on Feb 18 2006, 11:27 PM, said:

Good hand for "transfers" where you could transfer to clubs and then bid 2S to show a lead directional raise with clubs. I think I will take the minor risk of 2C getting passed out and committing myself to the 3 level and bid 2C to be followed with a 3S bid (so partner knows im not just preferencing). Prefer a fit jump to promise 9 cards if we even play them here.

What he said (including the comment that 3!C fit jump should promise 4 spades)

[000002]

yeah,Fit jump show

[Mr. Dodgy]

first reaction is 2♦, as marlowe, though 2♣ or even XX are reasonable by my methods.

[jdeegan]

Opponents have a diamond fit, but probably not a heart fit. 2♠ has the virtue of possibly buying the hand and shutting out their diamond fit. 2♣ is best if you expect to have to make a choice over the opponents 3♦ bid.

Hmmm............ I'm going to take a feel of the table. If the opponents look eager, I bid 2♣. If they look lethargic, 2♠. Otherwise, it depends on the caliber and temperament of the opponents and the state of the match. Against high quality junior opponents (i.e. eager and confident of their dummy play), I suspect 2♣ would recommend itself more often than not.

[whereagles]

2♣ seems fair. If somehow this wins the bidding, it might still make.

[Fluffy]

I amnot sure if 3♣ would show fit or not on this auction, I would bid only 2♣ to avoid missunderstandings.

[kgr]

2S at MP's. This will make it more difficult (compared to 2C or 2D) for opps to find their D fit. (BTW: 2S only shows 3-card support in my methods, no points).
2D or 3C at IMP's.

[kenrexford]

The format was IMPs, and I elected 3C. Sure, four card support is nice, but the lead-directional value seems increased when I have four hearts.

In any event, I doubted that we'd play 3C. If anything, we'd be too high in spades. The auction proceeded 3C-P-P-? This made me sweat, as partner turned up with two clubs. The opponents balanced, allowing me to complete the picture with a 3S call, raised to 4S. This was cold if you (1) play the person who doubled 1S and then bid 3D for the heart Ace and (2) do not concede a loser with no losers left.

[Codo]

A sI do not play offen, I still wait for the day to use the Fit showing jump.
So, I had used this tool in this hand too, even knowing the downsides of having just 3 spades...

[coyot]

2♣. The fear of this being passed all around is pretty much nil. When I rebid 3♠ later, partner will know that I have a reasonably good hand with club values and he might even bid a marginal game.

[zhs1971]

3♣, FJS

[Double !]

2♣

possession of the ♠ suit is important here. Chances are that the opps will have something more to say and you can now show belated ♠ support. If our suit were hearts, then I might look for more of a way to establish the fit asap.

DHL

[mikeh]

kenrexford, on Feb 19 2006, 10:51 PM, said:

The format was IMPs, and I elected 3C.  Sure, four card support is nice, but the lead-directional value seems increased when I have four hearts.

In any event, I doubted that we'd play 3C.  If anything, we'd be too high in spades.  The auction proceeded 3C-P-P-?  This made me sweat, as partner turned up with two clubs.  The opponents balanced, allowing me to complete the picture with a 3S call, raised to 4S.  This was cold if you (1) play the person who doubled 1S and then bid 3D for the heart Ace and (2) do not concede a loser with no losers left.

How could you correct to 3♠???

if you intended your bid as fit-showing, and partner passed, has he not shown a hand that wants to play in 3♣?

Or did he fail to alert? Which would make 3♠ by you an extremely poor bid.

Now, if 3♠ was not fit-showing, you are ok to bid 3♠, but would have made an odd bid with 3♣

[kenrexford]

Ah! This is the beauty of on-line. IF partner failed to alert, or alerted, I would not and did not see it. Hence, I have no "unauthorized" information. I only have the auction, which is fair game. Playing with a pick-up, I assumed that the pass indicated that 3C was not understood. TRUE, I might have sorely misunderstood a very intelligently assessed pass with knowledge that the 3C was fit-showing, but RIGHT! LOL

[Blofeld]

Presumably he thought partner would understand until partner passed 3♣.

Not my choice, but ...

[kenrexford]

If, playing with a pcikup partner, you only make bids you think partner will understand, you pass throughout unless the profile says "world class" it seems.