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#21 User is offline   benlessard 

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Posted 2006-February-17, 14:30

1-- at imps you cant really pass this hand. Mp its a 50% -50% guess IMHO

This hand show the biggest flaw in the standard bridge universe. To transfer and invite with 2nt ----pulling from the best partscore to the worst partscore is just plain stupid. You REALLY REALLY need to invite and be able to stop in 2M.

and the 9-T are important card on this hand. They can sometimes save you a trump loser.



2--

Can your partner bid 2h to say hes got a bit of extra ? If so pass is clear otherwise it depend on how light your Drury response and opening can be (both tend to be very light these days).

With no special agreement or style ... i think every lead might help me so ill bid 2nt (forcing or not)



3--- Ouch ...passing with that is a lack of concentration or lack of experience.

not close at all...luckily for you its was MP. You should bid game rightaway



4-- With no systemic contraint I can see no intelligent reason not to open this hand.

showing a reasonnable lead, a 11-13 bal or some clubs lenght some defensive potential

how can this be wrong...

your partner could have 5M or 6M and be easily shut off of the auction. I would hate being in the balancing seat if i were your partner.




I hope for you to this conservative week will come to an end.


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Posted 2006-February-17, 14:31

1. Pass is right at MP
2. 4 is right
3. 4 is right
4. Pass is right
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Posted 2006-February-17, 14:45

mikeh, on Feb 17 2006, 07:55 PM, said:

Hand 4: I have 4 controls and 12 hcp and no rebid problem and no horrible wastage such as QJ tight. I would have to have miscounted to pass this. I know that the LTC is too high, but I only use LTC as a check for borderline hands. This is obviously an absolute minimum, but (oddly enough) I do not consider it borderline.

Mike, I thought better of you. Even mentioning LTC on a balanced hand is more than I can stomach :( :P :P :P

The reasons to downgrade this hand are of course the 4333 shape and the two Jacks. Against this, we have two well-working aces (ATx and AQ9x). I would pass this hand in a standard opening style, but open in the given style with Han.

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Posted 2006-February-17, 16:28

Downgrading for 4333 is actually pretty closely linked to downgrading for LTC issues (but I agree with you, bye and large, that LTC is not a useful measure for minimum range balanced hands, which is why I don't pay much attention to it)
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Posted 2006-February-17, 18:55

1) Clear Pass

2) Clear pass

3) 4S. Pass terrible. Slam tries not ridiculous.

4) Pass in any seat.
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Posted 2006-February-17, 19:06

I hate them all, but is just because they don't fit my style.
You question is about style, for me all the passes are really terrible, but if you are a sound-solid player they might be ok. I hate the solid style...
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Posted 2006-February-18, 00:08

Hannie, on Feb 17 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

What do you think of each of these passes?

Scoring: Bidding practice



1NT(14-16) - 2H
2S  - pass


Scoring: Bidding practice



1NT(14-16) - 2H
2S  - pass


Scoring: Bidding practice



1NT(14-16) - 2H
2S  - pass


Scoring: Bidding practice



1NT(14-16) - 2H
2S  - pass

:) Let me just say what I would think (and might sometimes say out loud) if my partner bid in the way you described.

Hand 1: Considerable underbid, but it is one way to shoot for a swing. I don't like it, but I must repect partner's right to take a view on the hand.

Hand 2: Same as for Hand 1, except this is even more conservative. Borderline just plain wrong not to make at least a try for game.

Hand 3: Partner has evidently forgotten how to play bridge, if, indeed, he ever knew. I wouldn't even bother with a game try on this one. Just bid 4.

Hand 4: Looks like a pass, playing the old Roth-Stone bidding system. Otherwise, how can one open the least bit "light' as a rule and yet pass 12 HCP with 2.5 quick tricks and a useful ten? Unlike hands 1&2, partner is not shooting by taking an off-percentage view hoping for a specific situation.
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Posted 2006-February-18, 01:29

jdeegan, on Feb 18 2006, 06:08 AM, said:

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Hand 3: Partner has evidently forgotten how to play bridge, if, indeed, he ever knew. I wouldn't even bother with a game try on this one.  Just bid 4.
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Posted 2006-February-18, 11:44

pclayton, on Feb 17 2006, 12:04 PM, said:

A. Pass could work, but another move is in order. The suit sucks, but this isn;t that bad of a hand.

B. This is about the only hand I'd probably pass on. The way I play, pard has 3 trump and no shortness. This hand isn't worth a 14 count.

C. This is a game bid, not a game try.

D. MP's I open. 2 aces and its what the field rates to do.

Hey, we could be partners.
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Posted 2006-February-19, 04:58

awm, on Feb 17 2006, 06:59 PM, said:

If it's MPs, partner upgrades a lot, and 2 pretty much denies four spades, then I think passing is right.

Why is that? Would partner not rather upgrade vuln. at IMP's?
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  Posted 2006-February-19, 10:11

kgr, on Feb 19 2006, 05:58 AM, said:

awm, on Feb 17 2006, 06:59 PM, said:

If it's MPs, partner upgrades a lot, and 2 pretty much denies four spades, then I think passing is right.

Why is that? Would partner not rather upgrade vuln. at IMP's?

Partner upgrading a lot was part of the conditions.
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