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  Posted 2006-January-31, 13:09

Is 4-6 possible Justin?
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Posted 2006-January-31, 13:10

Blofeld, on Jan 31 2006, 02:09 PM, said:

Is 4-6 possible Justin?

No, that's a 2C opener.
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Posted 2006-January-31, 13:31

I'm not at all surprised that Ben decides to force to game, as I said, I think this is a very good 3C bid and I'm more inclined to bid 2S than pass. The advantage of 2S is that it keeps hearts in the picture, while 3C gives up on hearts except in the rare case that partner has a maximal 1-3-(45) hand.

I really dislike pass followed by 3C over their 2S bid, another reason I would never pass 2C.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-January-31, 15:38

Well, at least one person was with me ;)

I chose to bid 2S. I felt like 4C was the correct value bid but the 2S overbid will get us to the right strain. I guess I evaluated this hand differently than everyone else, but 3C seems like an underbid and pass seems unfathomable. We are 6-4 with 3 kings and the jack of what will probably be trumps. I like plus scores, but I like game bonuses even better. If partner has 5-5 or 2 hearts it seems like game will often be decent.

After I bid 2S then raised clubs, partner drove to slam. His hand was Axx x Axxx AQTxx. The other table stopped in 5.
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Posted 2006-January-31, 16:15

Jlall, on Jan 31 2006, 04:38 PM, said:

Well, at least one person was with me ;)

I chose to bid 2S. I felt like 4C was the correct value bid but the 2S overbid will get us to the right strain. I guess I evaluated this hand differently than everyone else, but 3C seems like an underbid and pass seems unfathomable. We are 6-4 with 3 kings and the jack of what will probably be trumps. I like plus scores, but I like game bonuses even better. If partner has 5-5 or 2 hearts it seems like game will often be decent.

After I bid 2S then raised clubs, partner drove to slam. His hand was Axx x Axxx AQTxx. The other table stopped in 5.



TaDa.... See, winstonm was right. You are a genius.... just like me... :-)

Nothing else but 2 looks right.

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I guess I evaluated this hand differently than everyone else,


Well not everyone else... .:-)
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Posted 2006-January-31, 17:04

Congrats to inquiry. If the correct answer is an optimistic view, he is sure to get it right! ;)


Just kidding Ben. As I said earlier, I think that 2S has a lot going for it.
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Posted 2006-January-31, 17:13

Ben you suave bidder you...
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Posted 2006-January-31, 19:15

Jlall, on Jan 31 2006, 04:38 PM, said:

Well, at least one person was with me :)

I chose to bid 2S. I felt like 4C was the correct value bid but the 2S overbid will get us to the right strain. I guess I evaluated this hand differently than everyone else, but 3C seems like an underbid and pass seems unfathomable. We are 6-4 with 3 kings and the jack of what will probably be trumps. I like plus scores, but I like game bonuses even better. If partner has 5-5 or 2 hearts it seems like game will often be decent.

After I bid 2S then raised clubs, partner drove to slam. His hand was Axx x Axxx AQTxx. The other table stopped in 5.

Well, I thought you said that this auction denied a maximum? The hand partner held is certainly maximum for Precision 1D opening. Maybe I read the post wrong.
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Posted 2006-January-31, 20:07

I said it denies 5-5+ with a max. He is 4-5.
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Posted 2006-February-01, 07:49

So I take it that you either didn't get a trump lead or the A was onside?
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Posted 2006-February-01, 11:32

Jlall, on Jan 31 2006, 09:07 PM, said:

I said it denies 5-5+ with a max. He is 4-5.

Oh, duh! I didn't catch the 5/5 max part - assume that is a jump to 3C then?

Knowing it may be max, and knowing the results, I'm going with 3C - feels about right on values.

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