[izubr]

Scoring: IMP

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Bidding:
S---W---N---E
1♦* pas 1♥ 2♣
pas pas 2♦**pas
pas 2♠ 3♥ pas
?

1♦ = 3+, best minor, 11-21
2♦ = nf
What is yor bid?

[inquiry]

izubr, on Jan 20 2006, 03:59 PM, said:

Bidding:
S---W---N---E
1♦* pas 1♥ 2♣
pas pas 2♦**pas
pas 2♠ 3♥ pas
?

1♦ = 3+, best minor, 11-21
2♦ = nf
What is yor bid?

Welcome to the bridge base forum.

What Jlall meant was south, who opened, choose to pass a non-forcing 2♦ bid and has shown no signs of life. After this pass of 2♦, when they compete to 2♠, north is unlikley to have any call, and if he has one, it can't be 3♥, because it will force his partner, who showed no interest what so ever in hearts to bid to the four level in diamonds.

So the implication is that north has bid wrong somewhere.. .either he should have rebid a non-forcing 2♥ and then, if necessary rebid 3♦ over 2♠, or he should have rebid 3♦ or double or maybe even 2NT here. It is impossible to tell, as this auction is out of the ordinary.

Now, since I have to do something, and that something can not be logically be pass, at this point I will rebid 4♦. From the question, I guess you are expecting a 3NT rebid here, but 3NT can't be right on this bidding (but then, nothing can be right now I am afaid).

ben

[luis]

Either pd is missbidding or pd thought that 2♦ was forcing when it wasn't
I would risk that no sane player can bid a non-forcing 2♦ and then bid 3♥ unless his hand was upgraded by the 2♠ call, but that can't happen or the other opponent would have raised spades.
So my guess is that pd thought 2♦ was forcing.
I bid 4♥ even if pd is a psycho playing 4♥ instead of 3♥ can't be a total disaster and I protect myself from missing a vulnerable game.
Whatever it happens once the bidding is done we'll have a conversation about me not being happy with impossible bids appearing in the middle of the auction.

[mcphee]

Just your every day normal auction. Who is supposed to knonw what is going on with this 3H bid. I would not even have opened the bidding, but now like an idiot I would bid 5D. If my partner leaves after this hand we may both be very pleased!

[HeartA]

mcphee, on Jan 20 2006, 07:15 PM, said:

If my partner leaves after this hand we may both be very pleased!

[izubr]

Yes, it is my first topic at BBO forums, could you tell me where I can post TD's problem with this hand?

Scoring: IMP

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Live competition, without table screens

S---W---N---E
1♦* pas 1♥ 2♣
pas pas 2♦**pas
pas 2♠ 3♥*** pas
5♦ pas pas D
pas pas pas

1♦ = 3+, best minor, 11-21
2♦ = nf, after 15-20 sec pause
3♥ = after 15-20 sec pause

What is your TD's decision?

[mcphee]

If I was the TD I would begin by laughing at E/W they seem to have felt that making some dumb bunny double with the "possible" hesitations taken in to account would allow them redress. What a joke they even called the cops, complete sour grapes I think. Just think, they had the chance to pass out 2D,

[hotShot]

N 2♦ was nonforcing and S passed, i can't see a use of UI here.
Opps reopen an partner bids again. He should hold at least 4+♦ and 5+♥ (perhaps more like 6+♥ because there s a known 7card fit in ♦ and he's looking for something better). N has shown some distribution and strength now and this is AI for S. South can now upgrade the Q♥ and expect North to be short in ♣ (since his 5 and Easts 5 don't leave much ♣ for others).
South has to expect 2♠ loosers (W has introdiced ♠ and probably holds the A), a ♣ looser (if North holds 2), 1+ ♦ looser (AKJ ♦ are missing) and even though it is most likely North holding AK♥ he does not know for sure. If the ♦ split is not 2-2 North may be unable to ruff more than 1♣ and if the ♥ are not 3-3, South can't drop his ♣ on ♥.
I not sure, if i would follow the argument, that hesitation suggests bidding 5♦.

[the hog]

mcphee, on Jan 22 2006, 12:04 AM, said:

If I was the TD I would begin by laughing at E/W they seem to have felt that making some dumb bunny double with the "possible" hesitations taken in to account would allow them redress. What a joke they even called the cops, complete sour grapes I think. Just think, they had the chance to pass out 2D,

I pretty much agree with this. The 2C bid was a poor overcall on such a motheaten suit. The 2S bid - well, words fail me....Not only is the suit poor, but West clearly did not look at his hand. It is odds on that the opponents have misbid, why give them a chance to correct this? The double is also not good. Why does East feel that he can beat this contract when partner is not marked with many values? No adjustment. I think North and E-W did not know what they were doing.