[flytoox]

NS Vul. sitting South as dealer, you hold:
S: AKQXX
H: KQJT
D: QXX
C: X

Opp passed throughout, auction goes:
You pd
1S 2C
2H 2S
?

Suppose u bid 2N, pd raised to 3N, what do you do now?

[easy]

1. Do you play 2/1 game force or was 2c. initially 10+.
2. Parter bid 2s over 2h doesnt that promise 3s? Had partner bid 3n over 2h would that have shown a strong nt?Would 2nt by pard be forcing? Would a rebid by pard of 3c been forcing to game? seems like i should have bid 3d over 2nt and gotten my pattern of my chest. I assume if pard had had a 2 3 44 hand he would have rebid nt over 2H.

well since i dont know the above
3. i bid 4nt quantitave slam try if pard has not denied a strong nt..
4. if pard has denied a strong nt i pass 3n

[flytoox]

sry, we play 2/1 gf.

[Codo]

Hi,

one more question:
Does 2 Spade promise two Spades or three?
I got to know several opinions about this bid.
If it promises two, pd shows a weak hand after your "strong" 2 NT and you should pass.

I would believe in this auction and choose the green card.

Kind Regards

Roland

[inquiry]

I think 2S only promises two on this auction, seeking further information. Over 2H, the spade raises I play are:
4S = picture bid, control in black suit, so with
no diamond control and just Qxx in d, I pass
3S = good hand, that is not picture bid
2S = can be two card support, can be strongish

With most partners I would not be concerned about the diamond suit on this auction, since their raise to 3NT should show a stopper. But with others, diamonds would be a concern... if they had 2spades, why didn't they bid 2N/3N last time? My stopper is tenatitive at best. Who knows, they might run 5 or 6 diamonds on me, or 4D and a side ACE. So even with a doubleton spade, 4S might be the correct spot.

So you have to have a discussion with your partner on this auction what a 3S and 3D rebid by responder means. I like to play 3S as no help in 4th suit, but otherwise willingness to play 3N. (why, with weak and and desire to play in spades, I bid 4S now. With stronger hand and desire for spades I bid 3S on the second round, not the third, and with a slamish hand but no strong desire for spades, surely you could cue-bid something below 3NT.

So if your partners 3NT promises a diamond stopper, then pass is correct. If it neither promises, nor denies, you have some guessing to do.

Ben

[flytoox]

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Hi,

one more question:
Does 2 Spade promise two Spades or three?

i think it should promise exactly 3 cards spt
I got to know several opinions about this bid.
If it promises two, pd shows a weak hand after your "strong" 2 NT and you should pass.

I would believe in this auction and choose the green card.

Kind Regards

Roland

[flytoox]

Pd's hand is:
S: J9X
H: AX
D: KJXX
C: AQJX

You can see 6N from pd is a great contract. We stopped at 4S. The filed contract is 6S, down 1 due to diamond 5-1 break.

What would be the sequence to 6N?

[Codo]

Hi Flytoox,

okay, I guess 2 NT was then just strength showing, so we have to look at 3 NT again...
I think it shows values in the minors in a flat hand.
What else can it be without discussion?

I have:
S: AKQXX
H: KQJT
D: QXX
C: X

Pd promised the an high honour in diamond. , So, if he has xxx,Axx,KJx, Axxx, a slam is nearly laydown.
I will simply ask for KCs.
If I hear zero or 4 I change my pd.
If I hear 1, I play 5 Spade.
If I hear two, I bid 6 Spade.
If I hear three, I ask for the K of D and try 7NT if he has it.

Kind Regards

Roland

[inquiry]

I am not thrilled with the 2Club intial response, but that is just me. I like to have five for this bid, but if I had bid this way initially, I would jump to 3S over 2H (see post above... this jump shows good raise, and a hand with stopper in at least one of the red suits since no picture bid). Auction then would be...

1S 2C (yuck)
2H 3S
4H 4C (4H = LTTC, denies D control)
4H 4N
5S 6N
Pass

Over 4H, if your partner is willing to bid 4H with no AK of clubs, and no control in diamonds (AK, singleton or void), you just have to make a slam try. Blackwood discovers the AKQ of spades. Now you want to protect the AQ of clubs and the KJ of diamonds so you bid the slam in NT without regards for any potential diamond ruff.

Now if the real world, I would not respond 2C with this hand. Instead, I would start off with a foricng raise (2NT). This is not the best jacoby hand in the world, but I don't like to distort my 2 over 1 if I can help it... If this 2NT was vanilla jacoby (I use it as limit raise or better with some partners), opener would rebid 3C (singleton or void) starting cue-bidding sequence.

1S 2NT
3C 3D 3C =singleton or void, 3D =cue (1 or 2)
3H 3S 3H = cue, 3S = waiting
3N 4C 3N = serious, 4C = cue must be ace
4H 4N 4H = LTTC.
5S 6N
Pass

Since all suit already controlled prior to 4H, this Last Train To Clarksville has to be a general slam try. Now responder can pull out blackwood and direct the contract into 6NT once again.

[EricK]

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Pd's hand is:
S: J9X
H: AX
D: KJXX
C: AQJX

You can see 6N from pd is a great contract. We stopped at 4S. The filed contract is 6S, down 1 due to diamond 5-1 break.

What would be the sequence to 6N?

Assuming this hand starts with 2C

1S 2C
2H 2NT
4NT 6NT seems OK

You don't always have to mention your 8 card major fits

Eric

[bglover]

With more than a minimum (i.e. more than 15) playing 2/1 GF, responder's bid should have been 3d not 2s, as 2n is an underbid and the hand is too good for a simple spd preference IMHO.

If there is a 4sf bid you will find slam... whether it is 6n or 6s is another matter. With the minor holdings in responder's hand I would insist on nt as hand seems to be best suited to nt despite the 8 card spade fit.