[Rebound]

Scoring: MP

1♦-P - to you? Playing 2/1.

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I'm curious to see if you think there's an obvious call here. Does it change if the scoring is IMPs instead?

[Trpltrbl]

Rebound, on Oct 19 2005, 07:54 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♦-P - to you? Playing 2/1.

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I'm curious to see if you think there's an obvious call here. Does it change if the scoring is IMPs instead?

If pd opens I bid 2NT, but I think there is a pass missing.
In PO seat I bid 1NT 11-15HCP. That's what I have.

GBB

[Walddk]

I assume I'm in the balancing seat, so I'll bid 1NT (10-14) in any form of scoring. It's rarely right to let the opponents play at the 1-level.

Roland

[Chamaco]

Trpltrbl, on Oct 19 2005, 01:01 PM, said:

Rebound, on Oct 19 2005, 07:54 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♦-P - to you? Playing 2/1.

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I'm curious to see if you think there's an obvious call here. Does it change if the scoring is IMPs instead?

If pd opens I bid 2NT, but I think there is a pass missing.
In PO seat I bid 1NT 11-15HCP. That's what I have.

GBB

Ditto.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2NT if responder, else 1NT, being in 4th suit.

Marlowe

[Walddk]

Could be that I'm responder. In that case I'll bid 1NT at matchpoints and 2NT at IMPs. No need to strethch at MP. Just play the contract one trick better than the other declarers.

Roland

[mike777]

Rebound, on Oct 19 2005, 07:54 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♦-P - to you? Playing 2/1.

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I'm curious to see if you think there's an obvious call here. Does it change if the scoring is IMPs instead?

What do you expect your opening partner's hand to be?


As responder to 1D opening I bid one no trumps, easy. 6-11 hcp very often. Note I play 14-16 opening nt off shape often. I expect partner to have around 11-13 hcp often for their bidding. I think the 2nt bidders assume partner to have a bit more for 1D opening. To me that is the more important question.

[Al_U_Card]

I am perplexed at the 1NT bid at MP.......are we fishing for a lucrative penalty double? I play 2NT to show 11-12 and this hand, while flat, has nice structure and should be safe at the 2 level, no?

[Walddk]

Al_U_Card, on Oct 19 2005, 04:43 PM, said:

I am perplexed at the 1NT bid at MP.......are we fishing for a lucrative penalty double? I play 2NT to show 11-12 and this hand, while flat, has nice structure and should be safe at the 2 level, no?

4333 and just one 10. 1NT is enough for me. If partner can't move, we are unlikely to have missed anything big.

Plusschreiben und gewinnen. You don't get a lot for 2NT down 1.

Roland

[Winstonm]

Certainly close. The shape suggests underbidding yet the controls and semi-fit suggest moving. I think 1N at MPs and 2N (invitational) is what I would do.

If the hand were Axx, Jxx, AQx, 10xxx I might try an offbeat inverted diamond raise - but I'd want to discuss this possibility with partner prior to making this bid.

Winston

[mikeh]

Saying 'I bid 1N because I play 14-16 1N openers' is no answer to the posted question. On this hand, partner plays 15-17.

At the risk of making the same error, I do not usually play that a 2N response shows 11-12: and this is an area in which stating '2/1' does not provide the solution.

If you play 2N as 11-12, ten you have a valuation question and must also address the issue of whether you are permitted to hedge on a side stopper: that Jxx ♥ is not as robust as it might be: picture partner with A10 or A9 and imagine who should play notrump on a ♥ lead (amongst other issues).

Given that this is mps and that plus scores govern, given that I hold bad shape, I would bid 1N. But on the other hand, I love Aces Nah, mps makes me a coward in this situations. I can always double later (a second way to win.... gotta love that)

If you want to do something creative, and especially if you rarely raise a major response with only 3 cards, you could try a 1♥ response, followed by a gentle invite (if possible) in notrump. This tactic can be very effective: right-siding notrump while blowing away the best lead.

[Al_U_Card]

Funny how 1 hcp CAN make a difference. That darn H J has how much value? If pard has 4 H cards, then it might take the 9th trick at NT. I often have this problem with 10 hcp hands that I always bid 1NT on and we miss out when pard has a nice 13 or 14 hcp hand that would have accepted.....

[Al_U_Card]

mikeh, on Oct 19 2005, 10:48 AM, said:

If you want to do something creative, and especially if you rarely raise a major response with only 3 cards, you could try a 1♥ response, followed by a gentle invite (if possible) in notrump. This tactic can be very effective: right-siding notrump while blowing away the best lead.

This one I will remember, tnx Mike!

[Al_U_Card]

Jlall, on Oct 19 2005, 11:02 AM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Oct 19 2005, 10:52 AM, said:

mikeh, on Oct 19 2005, 10:48 AM, said:

If you want to do something creative, and especially if you rarely raise a major response with only 3 cards, you could try a 1♥ response, followed by a gentle invite (if possible) in notrump. This tactic can be very effective: right-siding notrump while blowing away the best lead.

This one I will remember, tnx Mike!

please don't if you're playing with me

if it was that or 2NT, what would be your choice?

[mikeh]

Jlall, on Oct 19 2005, 11:02 AM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Oct 19 2005, 10:52 AM, said:

mikeh, on Oct 19 2005, 10:48 AM, said:

If you want to do something creative, and especially if you rarely raise a major response with only 3 cards, you could try a 1♥ response, followed by a gentle invite (if possible) in notrump. This tactic can be very effective: right-siding notrump while blowing away the best lead.

This one I will remember, tnx Mike!

please don't if you're playing with me

It works best in a weak notrump structure: where a single raise shows an unbalanced minimum or a strong notrump. That allows a jump raise to be forcing: at least 18 hcp if balanced or equivalent. This in turn minimizes the risks of blowing past 3N. It does mean that you cannot play, for example, 1♦ - 1♥ - 3♥ - 3N as a slam try, but that is rare anyway.

It only arises over 1♦ openings, since it is common to fudge a 1♦ response to 1♣.

It is a more costly (more risky) approach in a strong 1N style, which is why I suggested it as a creative choice, especially with Jxx.

[mike777]

There is nothing in this post that says what 1nt opening range is

As I said before I think the more interesting question is what do we expect for partner's opening hand. In any case I would bid 1nt with this hand in all scoring with both ranges.


15-17 is common but so is 14-16 in 2/1 . I think weak nt is very uncommon in 2/1 and more common in versions of eastern scientific or KS.

[Rebound]

I appear to have left some questions unaswered.

First, NT opening range was 15-17.

The intent of the question was to determine your response as responder after partner opens 1♦. I felt this was such an in-between hand that I would solicit your opinions.

[Winstonm]

MikeH:

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mps makes me a coward

So that is why you were on an imp team called The Wimps?

Winston