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Which of these would you open?

Poll: Which of these would you open? (48 member(s) have cast votes)

Which of these would you open?

  1. None of them (12 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. A (10 votes [20.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.83%

  3. A and B (24 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  4. A. B and C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. All of them (2 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

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#21 User is offline   Flame 

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Posted 2005-October-09, 19:21

easy, i open the first 2 because they have 12 hcp which is opening, i dont open the last two because they dont have 12 hcp.
I open almost all 12 hcp to be with the field, i would consider passing on a strong field or good team match, but not with a and not even with B, both points are on long suit and have ok 10s. yes balance but not close to passing. need real bad to pass 12 hcp.
KJ
JXXX
JXX
KQJ
this i would pass.
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Posted 2005-October-09, 20:39

I would open only A. I would expect almost all top players to open B as well, but I wouldn't.
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Posted 2005-October-09, 23:36

Is it about system or inspiration?

Pass is written on the CC. Neither of these hands meet Rule of 20, which may be out of Top Player's consideration :) .

You choose to open? ok, no problem, you are charged. Faithfully hoping your pd will not be upset (in long term) ;) :D :D .
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Posted 2005-October-10, 01:22

The T of ♥ in combination with AK and a 4 bagger is worth more than 1 hcp.

So all these hands should be evaluated as having 1 extra hcp.
Of course the crappy 4333 shape makes the hand to be downgraded.

So I would open A and B, I consider them to be a full (albeit minimum) opener.

I might open hands C and D 1st seat but not 2nd seat, I want my 2nd seat openers to be really flawless, 1st seat I might take a chance, but not 2nd seat at unfavorable.
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Posted 2005-October-10, 05:22

A and B

Maybe I'm wrong but I never pass 12 even if they are ugly ! :)

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Posted 2005-October-10, 09:50

I open A only, but would rather pass A than open B.

I miss the days when my favorite partner and I were playing a big club system with 13-16 NT and promptly passed all balanced 12's (excepting 5-3-3-2's with a fair suit, these opened 1NT).

We had a fair number of auctions like:

P-(P)-1♠-P-2♠-(3♥)-X

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Posted 2005-October-10, 20:53

lol I just passed a 4333 12-count in first seat, all white.

Held
KQxx
Qxx
Kxx
Qxx

really, no spots of any consequence that I can recall.

And, I'll pass it next time, too
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Posted 2005-October-12, 01:30

Double !, on Oct 11 2005, 02:53 AM, said:

lol    I just passed a 4333 12-count in first seat, all white.

Held
KQxx
Qxx
Kxx
Qxx

really, no spots of any consequence that I can recall.

And, I'll pass it next time, too

I agree passing this hand: it has no aces and no tens, and is considerably weaker than hands A and B :-)

I would also pass the hand you posted while opening hands A and B :-)
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Posted 2005-October-12, 08:23

I almost passed a 13 in third seat recently...

red/red MP QJx QJx KQx Qxxx. Didn't have the guts to do it though...pard ended in 1N-1 lol.
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Posted 2005-October-12, 09:10

Playing 2/1 I would open A and B. Playing my limited openings I would STILL only open A and B. I don't like to open flat 11 counts unfavourable in 1st or 2nd. It just doesn't payoff. However, there is some respite when you are playing a strong NT as the opponents are not likely to be able to double you for a number. Opening this as a weak NT is asking for trouble. White I would have no problem opening any of these playing 14-16NT.
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Posted 2005-October-12, 10:56

None of them.
But this is why I play baby NT, so I can open these ;)

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