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#281 HighLow21

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Posted 2014-April-17, 13:58

manudude03, on 2014-April-08, 14:40, said:

One from years back.

My partner and I have this something along the lines of this auction
1C-1H
1NT(0)-2D(1)
2H-2S(2)
3C(2)-3S(2)
4C(2)-4D(2)
4H-4NT
5S-7H-(X).

0. 12-14
1. GF checkback.
2. Cues

This goes 3 down when we're off 3 cashing aces. Before bidding 7H, partner said I (the opener) must have all 5 key cards for this bidding(this was a social bridge evening).

Proof that cue-bidding leads to terrible results when in the wrong hands. How on earth could someone drive to slam, let alone grand slam, opposite this bidding from partner? He's limited. He's signed off in 4H. And while I have no idea what the 5S bid is, I don't understand how an reasonable person could get to a slam with 3 aces missing on this auction.

There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!

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Posted 2014-April-18, 10:08

HighLow21, on 2014-April-17, 13:58, said:

That was the point and why the comment was fit for this thread. They assumed that 2 or 5 must be 5 after we had shown 12-14 balanced. Now go back and count the points...

(-: Zel :-)

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Posted 2014-April-18, 10:43

manudude03, on 2014-April-08, 14:40, said:

When did we change the numbering system so that footnotes started with 0?

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#284 Mbodell

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Posted 2014-April-18, 23:20

ArtK78, on 2014-April-18, 10:43, said:

When did we change the numbering system so that footnotes started with 0?

[I am risking that this is a hopeless/clueless comment]

Computer scientists 0-index most things. See Dijkstra's argument and wikipedia article.

#285 eagles123

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Posted 2014-April-22, 07:36

My Parnter picked up

AKT
KQJ742
A
AKQ

in 4th seat after p p p

she opened 2C (8 playing tricks or 23-24 bal) rather than the game forcing 2D. and then proceeded to underbid even more by jumping to 4H when I myself made a GF bid meaning we missed an easy slam. I asked aftewards why she didn't open 2D

Quote

"you might have had a weak hand".

"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond

#286 kenberg

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Posted 2014-April-22, 07:53

Some years back my partner opened 1♣ and after a competitive auction my left hand opponent became declarer. Partner led a club and ruffed the third round. This surprised me because our club openings promised three, and she was a rather rigid person. So after the hand I asked. She explained that while she knew that she could open 1♦ holding three diamonds and two clubs, this time she only had two cards in each minor. She had never encountered this before and just did the best that she could. I asked if it did not strike her as a bit odd that she had neither a three card minor nor a five card major and she allowed that it did, but she just didn't know what to do about it.

If you are wondering, it turned out she found a third diamond in her hand partway through the play.

Ken

#287 manudude03

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Posted 2014-April-22, 08:02

ArtK78, on 2014-April-18, 10:43, said:

When did we change the numbering system so that footnotes started with 0?

[I am risking that this is a hopeless/clueless comment]

I wasn't going to include it as a footnote, but decided to include it after incase anyone thinks we play a 20-22 1NT rebid, and couldn't be bothered changing the rest of the numbers. Besides, I work as a web developer, used to array indexes starting at 0

Wayne Somerville

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Posted 2014-April-22, 08:25

eagles123, on 2014-April-22, 07:36, said:

My Parnter picked up

AKT
KQJ742
A
AKQ

in 4th seat after p p p
she opened 2C (8 playing tricks or 23-24 bal) rather than the game forcing 2D. and then proceeded to underbid even more by jumping to 4H when I myself made a GF bid meaning we missed an easy slam. I asked aftewards why she didn't open 2D

Quote

"you might have had a weak hand"

"and I didn't want the weak and to make a 2♥ negative and declare ♥ contracts" would be a reasonable follow-up

Robin

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#289 broze

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Posted 2014-April-23, 14:37

This has happened to me several times as declarer in national tournaments:

I am declarer in what appears to everyone at the table to be a tricky contract. I lead a suit and both opps follow.

Me: What is your carding here?
LHO: Oh, we don't play any.
Me: Okay. (Inspects convention card) It says here you play standard count on declarer's lead?
LHO: Yes, but we don't do it when we think it will help declarer.
Me: No, of course not.

Lo and behold, every single time they have given honest count!

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Posted 2014-April-24, 03:54

broze, on 2014-April-23, 14:37, said:

Lo and behold, every single time they have given honest count!

A very fine local player (GLM) who is a retired auditor insists on count signals 99.9% of the time to the exclusion of everything else.

We call them accounting signals and there is an audit trail. You can take them to the bank but she will beat you anyway.

When a deaf person goes to court is it still called a hearing?
What is baby oil made of?

#291 ahydra

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Posted 2014-April-24, 04:25

Sextuple combo post!

ahydra

#292 ggwhiz

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Posted 2014-April-24, 04:37

Whoa! a new record. Kept telling me the gateway timed out

When a deaf person goes to court is it still called a hearing?
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#293 Cyberyeti

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Posted 2014-April-24, 05:05

ggwhiz, on 2014-April-24, 04:37, said:

Whoa! a new record. Kept telling me the gateway timed out

When it tells you it timed out 90% of the time it eventually arrives

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Posted 2014-April-24, 05:32

You can just open a new tab and check the thread. Often your post is there.

#295 EricK

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Posted 2014-April-28, 23:25

Partner leads a singleton ♣. I get in early and give him a ruff. At the end of the hand, partner, who started with four trumps, says "if I didn't have to ruff it might have been better". "So why did you lead a ♣?" I innocently ask. "Well, it was a singleton" he says.

#296 lamford

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Posted 2014-May-02, 17:57

The most hopeless or clueless comment I have experienced is when a TD, after a claim, classed best play by the non-claimers as "not a normal line", and therefore allowed the claim!

I prefer to give the lawmakers credit for stating things for a reason - barmar

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Posted 2014-May-07, 09:50

EricK, on 2014-April-28, 23:25, said:

[..] "So why did you lead a ♣?" I innocently ask. "Well, it was a singleton" he says.

Reminds me of a hand I had at the weekend. I had a pretty shapely hand and was about to lead my singleton when it occurred to me that with a void in trumps it wouldn't do me much good if partner did manage to get in and return the suit.....

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Posted 2014-July-14, 17:35

Setting: A loudmouth who has an inability to shut up, and who just got done criticizing your previous day's partner for giving lessons to his new partner for the day. He is playing in a partnership where he is a much weaker player.

Partner and I are playing 2/1, and have the auction as follows (at teams, unfavorable vulnerability)

(P)-1♠-(P)-2♦
(X)-P-(3♣)-P
(P)-X all pass.

Dummy comes down with:

After this goes for 1700 (declarer making no clear errors), the doubler asks his partner why she bid 3♣ after all he had done was make a lead directing double, saying that it was a horrible bid on her part, and blaming her for the result.

The other table was in 3N making 6 for 690 (takes two of three finesses to make 6N on 30 combined HCP).

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#299 eagles123

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Posted 2014-August-24, 08:49

A bbo 'advanced' had this shocker just now, firstly with a totally inexplicable double, and then for whatever reason raising his partners 2s bid. in the post mortem however he gave 100% blame to his partner
Mr. Advanced→Table: my p has to pass
Mr. Advanced→Table: I have to double!!!!!
Mr. Advanced→Table: didn't you my hand??
Mr. Advanced→Table: you p without points have to pass
Mr. Advanced→Table: 2 cl pass no problem for us

"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond

#300 Lord Molyb

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Posted 2014-August-24, 12:52

eagles123, on 2014-August-24, 08:49, said:

Perhaps he meant the double as lead-directing and thought his partner had 6 decent spades (which is impossible). Still clueless though.

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#282 Zelandakh

#283 ArtK78

#284 Mbodell

#285 eagles123

#286 kenberg

#287 manudude03

#288 RMB1

#289 broze

#290 ggwhiz

#291 ahydra

#292 ggwhiz

#293 Cyberyeti

#294 Antrax

#295 EricK

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