Partner opens 4 Hearts And you have some good cards...
#1
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:03
♠AKJ
♥J
♦J98
♣AK76xx
(Pa)-4♥-(Pa)-???
We do not play NAMYATS.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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#2
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:08
#3
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:30
For any sane 4♥ opening, I can't see us avoiding 2 red suit losers.
#4
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:45
TylerE, on 2013-May-17, 08:30, said:
For any sane 4♥ opening, I can't see us avoiding 2 red suit losers.
Partner could easily have either of these hands:
x
AKTxxxxx
x
xxx
x
KQTxxxxx
Ax
xx
or any hand with 9 hearts to the AK and a single diamond.
I play that 5♦ is an asking bid over 4♥ (step responses - no control, second round control, first round control). The issue is whether my hand is good enough to commit to the 5 level while revealing the diamond weakness.
I take the plunge. 5♦. My hope is that he has good enough hearts so that if he has second round diamond control or better slam will make, and if he does not have second round control of diamonds that we do not lose 3 tricks.
#5
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:52
AKT8th and stiff will lose to Qxx♥ often enough that I don't feel that upset if it happens to make. It's far from a sure thing.
#6
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:58
Otherwise I'm blasting 6♥ as 2nd seat is the real deal in my partnership and it will take a parlay of 2 diamond losers plus the lead to beat it.
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#7
Posted 2013-May-17, 08:58
TylerE, on 2013-May-17, 08:52, said:
Which makes the OP's question impossible to handle. If there is no expectation from the 4H opening, everything is a crapshoot.
#8
Posted 2013-May-17, 09:06
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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#9
Posted 2013-May-17, 09:14
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#10
Posted 2013-May-17, 09:14
#11
Posted 2013-May-17, 09:37
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#12
Posted 2013-May-17, 09:42
Hanoi5, on 2013-May-17, 09:06, said:
I don't know. If you say that, although NAMYATS is not in use, you neverthess have a certain trick-taking and purity expectation at various colors ---then the problem might be manageable.
#13
Posted 2013-May-17, 14:58
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#16
Posted 2013-May-17, 18:59
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#17
Posted 2013-May-18, 00:36
ahydra, on 2013-May-17, 09:14, said:
If you expect 7-4, isn't that a good reason not to move? His 4-card suit is at least as likely to be in diamonds as in spades, so if he has no diamond control you're quite likely to go down in 5♠.
#18
Posted 2013-May-18, 01:31
#19
Posted 2013-May-18, 04:13
ArtK78, on 2013-May-17, 08:45, said:
x
AKTxxxxx
x
xxx
What a nice T of hearts!
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KQTxxxxx
Ax
xx
And another nice T of hearts!!
Given that your examples are well-fitting maximums, and you still needed the magical T of hearts to make them pretty good, they should be enough to convince you to pass 4H.
#20
Posted 2013-May-18, 08:50
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