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#21 User is offline   the hog 

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Posted 2012-June-03, 21:38

4H. I would certainly not pass and think it is a poor call to do so.
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Posted 2012-June-04, 00:15



Here is the full deal. I passed as Phil predicted. It turned out to be not a bad decision.

If you bid 4 you will end up either -100 or -300 depends on if W will double or not and/or the lead. Passing 3 +300 is available.

Interesting, if you put a heart To Han's hand from West, and give a diamond to West, we still can not make 4 i suppose. We probably can make 3 NT from my side, but i dont think we can bid it.

Not the same auction but we got another 3 minor doubled hand today. We collected +1400 this time but we had vulnerable game. Not a similar auction but basically another pass without trump stack but defensive values. This time i held Kxx of their suit (in front of overcaller)
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Posted 2012-June-04, 01:52

View PostMrAce, on 2012-June-04, 00:15, said:

Not the same auction but we got another 3 minor doubled hand today. We collected +1400 this time but we had vulnerable game. Not a similar auction but basically another pass without trump stack but defensive values. This time i held Kxx of their suit (in front of overcaller)

But your opponents were weak at that time.
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Posted 2012-June-04, 13:31

View PostFluffy, on 2012-June-04, 01:52, said:

But your opponents were weak at that time.


No, but my RHO was extremely operative :P
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Posted 2012-June-04, 14:37

My partner has 3D: MM 2-suiter. He didn't, but
Dbl: 3-suiter, bal, 1-suiter to show next.
For me convert for penalties looks like a
possible bonanza.
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Posted 2012-June-04, 15:01

Not surprised that passing worked. As a person who played a 2NT opening for the minors for quite a while, I found that we OFTEN escaped a huge set and instead got to defend an ambitious game that failed because of our stacks.

To me, before reading the comments that later followed (and the actual results), my reactiopn back when Jlall posted his first reply was, "WTF?" Passing seems semi-obvious to me.
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Posted 2012-June-04, 17:18

View Postkenrexford, on 2012-June-04, 15:01, said:

To me, before reading the comments that later followed (and the actual results), my reactiopn back when Jlall posted his first reply was, "WTF?" Passing seems semi-obvious to me.


Heh, fair enough, I like pass now I am not sure what I was thinking, lol @ me for saying it was an obv 4H. Nice hand.
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Posted 2012-June-04, 20:58

One thought - intervening in the immediate seat over this 2N we can use 3= and 3= with strong single suited overcalls so an immediate overcall in a major is a minimum at level.

In the current situation, a Rose Double (Stole my bid) might make some sense, but we can hedge our bets to double showing either only or both majors. With the actual hand, intervenor might choose to call 3 showing the strong one-suiter if 5=3. Over a double, advancer can bid a more reasonable 4 more secure in a 4-4 fit.

The 5-5 major holding in LHO is unfortunate.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 07:23

View Postkenrexford, on 2012-June-04, 15:01, said:

Not surprised that passing worked. As a person who played a 2NT opening for the minors for quite a while, I found that we OFTEN escaped a huge set and instead got to defend an ambitious game that failed because of our stacks.



The truth is few of us have had much experience playing against 2NT, 5-5 5-11 points in the minors.

On this board clubs seem to make 7 to 9 tricks depending on the opening lead.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 08:06

View Postjogs, on 2012-June-05, 07:23, said:

The truth is few of us have had much experience playing against 2NT, 5-5 5-11 points in the minors.

On this board clubs seem to make 7 to 9 tricks depending on the opening lead.

Haven't we all had enough experience of leading against two suiters to know that a trump lead is automatic?
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Posted 2012-June-05, 08:37

View Postgnasher, on 2012-June-05, 08:06, said:

Haven't we all had enough experience of leading against two suiters to know that a trump lead is automatic?

I think jogs only plays GCC events.
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