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Do you reopen (another simple Fantunes auction)

Poll: Do you reopen (another simple Fantunes auction) (8 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Pass (2 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. X (6 votes [75.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  3. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2015-September-05, 07:41



1 shows a hand about a king stronger than normal, and is F1. N/S are a comparatively weak pair in a fairly strong room.

Do you reopen? If so, with what?

How close is it?
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Posted 2015-September-05, 07:57

I reopen with a double. I hate the quacks, and doubling them into game, but we are close to game ourselves, and while partner will make a penalty pass too frequently, we will often set it one. On this distribution I would double with the most terrible spots, but not if a jack were removed.
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Posted 2015-September-05, 08:04

X looks obvious
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Posted 2015-September-05, 16:27

so a typical hand for partner is:

AKQTxx..Tx..AT...JTx ??

I will try pass, I hope partner assumes my hand is typical 1nt bid here given auction.
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Posted 2015-September-05, 18:47

Against that opener reopening will probably cost us as we would presumably be down one in both rooms after partner bids the spade game over our double. But partner frequently has other distributions, some of which would make our combined values enough for a biddable, percentage games in the red suits or NT. A conservative partner might even sometimes make a game in spades.
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Posted 2015-September-05, 18:52

ok on my given example it looks like they make 4c and we are down one in 3s


Perhaps my assumptions are off but with more pard would bid 3s or x not pass, granted we may have zero but our having 6 seems more normal on this type of auction.

Those of you who play this system should have a much better feel for the 4 hands.
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Posted 2015-September-05, 19:40

View Postmike777, on 2015-September-05, 18:52, said:

ok on my given example it looks like they make 4c and we are down one in 3s


Perhaps my assumptions are off but with more pard would bid 3s or x not pass, granted we may have zero but our having 6 seems more normal on this type of auction.

Those of you who play this system should have a much better feel for the 4 hands.

Because of the ACBL regs, I have not had the opportunity of practicing Fantunes in live completion, so my feel for the system may be poor. Perhaps several of the other voters also lack experience, so if you do being outvoted in the poll shouldn't bother you. Otherwise, IMHO your assumptions are off.

Sorry I failed to analyze the club part score. For argumentative purposes, I conceded to show that this was near worst case, and other cases would be enough better that the reopening double might be superior. The spade result should be about 8 1/2 tricks for declarer; you assumed 8, I 9. I also assumed that with the given hand my partner would bid game because of the potential vulnerable bonus after the encouraging reopening double.
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