[straube]

You are South in third seat. Imps. All vul.

...........................96
...........................AJ942
...........................8
...........................J9862
T743...........................................J5
KQ6............................................T753
T7543........................................K962
T................................................743
...........................AKQ82
...........................8
...........................AQJ
...........................AKQ5

[straube]

straube, on 2014-May-03, 21:18, said:

You are South in third seat. Imps. All vul.

...........................96
...........................AJ942
...........................8
...........................J9862
T743...........................................J5
KQ6............................................T753
T7543........................................K962
T................................................743
...........................AKQ82
...........................8
...........................AQJ
...........................AKQ5

Z-T bids...

.......P
1C-1D (16+, 0-7)
1H-2S (bigger, 5-7 and unspecified 5/5)
2N-3H (asking, H/C)
4C-4D (transfer RKC, forced)
4H-4N (RKC clubs, 1)
6C

[akhare]

It's quite easy to find using Meckwell-Lite too:

1♣ (16+) - 1♦ (0-7)
2♠ (5+, GF) - 2N (waiting; not double negative)
3♣ (natural) - 4♦ (RKC)
...

[Free]

1♣-1♦ (16+ ; 0-7)
1♠-2♥ (4+♠ F1 ; 5-7 0-2♠ 5+♥)
2NT-3♣ (GF, no ♥ fit, no 5m ; 4+♣)
4♣-4♥ (sets trumps ; 1 keycard, ♥ cue)
4♠-4NT (♠ cue ; ♦ cue)
6/7♣-pass
Not sure if South should bid small or grand here. Responder either has ♦K or he's short in ♦ with 6+♥ or 5+♣, but there's no way to find out. 5NT asks for grand if responder has ♣Q, after which he might bid grand with the extra ♣, but that's too far fetched imo.

PS: Is something wrong with the hand editor? It's a lot faster than trying to align your suits using dots...

[phoenix214]

1♣-1♦ (16+/0-7)
1♥-2♥ (19+/5-7 5+♥)
2♠-3♣ (5+♠/4+♣)
4♣-4♦ (Sets clubs/diamond control]
4NT-5♣ (RKCB / 1 keycard)
Now opener can figure out that either responder has 2-5-2-4/1-5-3-4 with ♦K/♥A or 2-5-1-5/2-6-1-4 with ♥A
♦K seems to produce 3 spades-3diamonds-1-hearts-5clubs. if p does not have DK. Then i think trying for grand is more likely.
5♦-5[hearths] (♣Q+K/No queen)
5♠-5NT (Kings?/none)
Now similar problem to Free, although we know that he has 2-5-1-5 or 2-6-1-4. in the 1st case grand seems easy, as long as the breaks are reasonable. In the second case there does not seem to be enough trumps to ruff. So 6♣

[awm]

Pass - 1♣ (16+)
2♦ (clubs and hearts) - 2♥ (relay GF)
2♠ (5/5 or more) - 2NT (relay)
3♥ (2515) - 3♠ (relay)
3N (2-3 QP) - 4♣ (relay)
4♠ (3 QP, one top heart, no top club) - 4NT (relay*)
5♣ (no top spade) - 5♦ (relay)
5♥ (no top diamond) - 7♣

* Partner has either xx Axxxx x xxxxx or xx Qxxxx K xxxxx; in both cases 6♣ is really good but the first hand offers a good chance at a grand...

I suspect my choice to bid grand on this hand is more a matter of evaluation than better methods. My view is that:

1. If clubs are 2-2 then all I need is spades 4-2, or partner having spade jack, or a diamond finesse (so almost cold)
2. If clubs are 3-1 I still make if spades are 3-3, or partner has spade jack, or a diamond finesse, or partner has high enough trumps I can ruff everything safely.

These are really good chances, and on the actual hand 7♣ seems cold.

[Siegmund]

Unassuming Club gets to 6C, via an auction in which the spade suit doesn't get mentioned:

1C-1H (two way / natural)
2C-3C (19+ without heart support / 6-9 or 13+, club suit... 2D now shows 10-12 responder)
followed by a simple ask that shows one ace and no king.

Opener COULD show his spades after 3C, but I don't think he should, when he knows about one fit already and the odds are much against responder having 3 spades with him.)

[benlessard]

1C--1D (15+, H or pts)
3C--3D (art GF 3 suiter no voids, 4or5H)
3S--4C (short H at least 4S, C RKC)
4D--4H (14,Qc ?)
5C---5D (Qc+Ks no Kd--Qs?
6C -- (QS+QD+ a little extras)

The little extras possibles are
a 4th clubs, Jd,Js,stiff K of H.
Since there is too many bad options I would pass 6C.

After 1C-1D-??

1H,1S,1NT,2C,2H,2S,2NT are not forcing wich is quite rare for a strong club system.
2D is reserved for almost GF or some rare GF.

IMO there is 10 times more almost GF than true GF hands so I tend to not give less importance for true GF hands so its a tough hand for my system.

[rbforster]

Silent Club:

2♣-2N clubs and a major, weak (3-8ish); GF ask
3♦-3♥ 4-5♥/5♣; relay
3N-4♣ 5/5, sets trump
4♥-4N cue; RKC
5♣-6♣ 1 ace; not trying for 7
AP

[yunling]

Using my homegrown system:

P-1♣(15+nat/bal or 21+any)
1NT(5+♥ about 6-12)-2♣(GF relay)
2♦(4+♣)-2♥(relay)
2♠(5-5)-2NT(relay)
3♥(2515)-4♣(RKC in ♣)
4♦(1/4)-7♣

I think I'll just bid the grand since it has about 64% chance opposite xx Axxxx x xxxxx.

[whereagles]

Pet two-way pass:

pass 1♣
2♠ 2NT
3♣ 4♦
4NT 5♦
7♣

pass = 0-8 or 15+
1♣ = 0-8 or 15+
2♠ = natural 5+ spades, 21+ (GF)
2NT = waiting
4♦ = splinter
4NT = old black

2♠ is rudimentar, I know. But it's so rare I don't care much for improving the system in this respect.

The key is 2NT, since there is the 3♥ alternative. But with that 5-5 it's very likely "opener" has the opposite 5-5, in which case 3NT would follow up. Maybe it was biased from seeing the hands :/

[PrecisionL]

C3: Copious Canape Club

1♣ - 1♦ -
1♠ (4+♠, 1 round force) - 2♥ (5+♥, 0-2♠ & 5-7) -
3♣ (Natural, 1 rouned force) - 4♣ -
6♣ all pass

[Lord Molyb]

In Molybdenum, north opens 2♦ (weak with ♣ + Major). So it goes:
2♦ - 3♦
3NT - 4♥
5♦ - 7♣
P

2♦ = Weak with ♣ + ♥ or ♣ + ♠
3♦ = Agrees clubs, control asking bid
3NT = Second round control in ♦
4♥ = Control asking bid
5♦ = First round control in ♥.

If you want me to open south (not happening since north has to do something on his first turn) it goes:
P - 1♣
2♠ - 3♥
4♣ - 5♣
5♦ - 5♥
5♠ - 5NT
7♣

P = Forcing
1♣ = asks
2♠ = 22+ with 5 spades
3♥ = Some values, 5+ hearts
4♣ = natural
5♣ = natural
5♦, 5♥, 5♠ = cues
5NT = second round control in diamonds or spades
7♣ = Partner at worst has 1-5-3-4 or 3-5-1-4, with a singleton spade 2 diamonds can be discarded.

[antonylee]

Homegrown Polish club: 1C-1H; 1S[18+ 5+S or 15-17 4S5+C]-2C; 4C[opt. RKC]-4D[min]; 4H[reask]-5C[1+Q for the 5th C]; ... judgment.

[jack502]

2♥ (Muiderburg) 2NT (relay)
3♥ (5 ♣) 4♦ (cue for clubs)
5♣ 6♣

[Zelandakh]

Straube, I would open the North hand 2♥ - do you want that auction or the strong club one as per Hand 26?